How to distinguish a juicer????

[b fold the truth]

As far as dealing with a child and their role model...people need to be responsible parents and discuss things like that with their children. Little kids and teens have admired the pro bodybuilders in Flex magazine for years...and they are on tons of AAS. Parents need to be pro-active with their children.

After my last contest (marking my 1 year of competing in this crazy sport) someone came over to me and cornered me. I had just been asked to help with a Christian Strongman Team demonstration by their President when one of the other members walks over and begins telling me that I am using AAS. He begins saying that since I have gotten a lot stronger in the past year that I must be on AAS.

This guy was 5'4" and 225 and was accusing me at 6'2" 284 of being on AAS. He can out bench me too...but a good bit. In the past year I have went from hanging with him in strongman competitions to blowing him away on every single event. What he doesn't realize are a few things:

1) When he saw me compete a year ago...I had never done a contest or touched a single implement. He had been doing strongman for a few years as well as several contests. I now have lots of equipment to train with and have done several heavy contests.

2) ...and as I began to tell him... I train with more heart, drive, determination, and intelligence than he does. He complained all day long about how he was being cheated on ever event and at the end of the day when he placed 4th and did not qualify...he began by saying that he was glad that he didn't qualify for Nationals this year because he didn't plan on going anyway. He was going to the Bench and Curl state meet that weekend.

Sorry for the rant...

B True

 

[Vortexx]

Bfold, I think you got the right mentality: a strong mind and a burning desire to become a serious stronman to be reckoned with.

Sure If you ever decide to use AAS you might even go with the top-ranking strongman, but ONLY if combined with the kind of commitment like you displayed this last year.

People that mainly rely on AAS as their prime "powersource" end up skipping the nationals and do half-baked curl events because they happen to have some genetic talent for powerfull arms, but lack the mentality of becoming a true allround champ...

 

[argent]

i dont use roids but its easy to pick out who has.......signs are...

thin looking skin, veins always dialeted, too many veins, fat face and ripped body combo, acne all over back and sholders, when theyre at the gym they dont lift hard or heavy or do hardcore exersises like squats and deads but are still ripped and huge fuckers. deformed body structures(old guy at the gym has widest back ever, he has all lats but no traps at all) bloated stomach. real ridgid facial structure i think thats about all. my gym is predominatly users and abusers so many of them look unproportionate and stupid looking so im not shure if i will ever take the plunge into juicing.

That is one of the most uninformed posts I have ever read.

 

[benchmonster]

from my point of view i think it would be good to know for young kids who have dreams to go far in the sport. everyone needs someone they look up to. if a kid has a role mood and he thinks he was the greatest ever then he finds out that he used roids. what do you think that might pressure them to do?

It is important in my opinion that a kid knows the truth about things like this. If you have a kid who is an athlete, or is aspiring to be an iron game competitor or whatever, I think it is important that he/she knows the score about juice.

Hiding their head in the sand about this topic is not any smarter than hiding their head in the sand about sex. Why do you suppose it is that the teen pregnancy rates are always highest in the bible belt? It is because kids there are not told the truth about how not to get pregnant, because uptight right wingers are more comfortable thinking their kids will be virgins till marriage. . . until their daughter gets knocked up at 16.

If your kid wants to get ahead regarding strength and hypertrophy, they are going to do what they are going to do. If you have a kid who is uninformed, he is more likely to do stupid things. If you have a kid who knows this is very unhealthy till after he/she quits growing, and that there can be side effects, and that there are methods to counteract those side effects, then you have someone there who has a better chance to make a smart decision.

That decision might be to avoid it altogether, and if not, hopefully they will make the decision to go ahead with safer alternatives, and to use anti-e's, etc. . .

I have made this argument, along with aurelias, on other threads, that people just need to realize that certain things are quite simply unnatainable clean. That way they have their eyes open. I just think it is unhealthy to go around thinking you can look like a bodybuilder, lift like a WPO competitor, or play football like an NFL player just on good old milk, and Joe Weider protein powder.

Kids will be pressured into using AAS. That is as inevetable as the fact that they will be pressured into drinking beer. The best you can do is provide them with the best info, and hope they make a smart decision.

B.

 

[nclifter6feet6]

cytomel-alot of guys juice at my gym and some have some fucked up physiques really out of proportion looking they just dont look natural waaaaay out of proportion bonstructers and all.
i see alot of you people disagreing with me and i have pissed someone off cause i got negative karma. i can always pick a user out of a crowd. i dont know why u guys seem to be getting mad, maybe your realizing that im speaking the truth and your fitting my description and now your getting pissed at me. oh and i forgot those kinda veins paul dillet has those real curly veiens llike spagettit. its not that hard to tell. you guys should stop crying, its just my opinion oh well if im wrong im wrong so what c u later my bitches

 

[onemind]

cytomel-alot of guys juice at my gym and some have some fucked up physiques really out of proportion looking they just dont look natural waaaaay out of proportion bonstructers and all.
i see alot of you people disagreing with me and i have pissed someone off cause i got negative karma. i can always pick a user out of a crowd. i dont know why u guys seem to be getting mad, maybe your realizing that im speaking the truth and your fitting my description and now your getting pissed at me. oh and i forgot those kinda veins paul dillet has those real curly veiens llike spagettit. its not that hard to tell. you guys should stop crying, its just my opinion oh well if im wrong im wrong so what c u later my bitches

Man you a f'n queer.

 

[CytoMel]

cytomel-alot of guys juice at my gym and some have some fucked up physiques really out of proportion looking they just dont look natural waaaaay out of proportion bonstructers and all.
i see alot of you people disagreing with me and i have pissed someone off cause i got negative karma. i can always pick a user out of a crowd. i dont know why u guys seem to be getting mad, maybe your realizing that im speaking the truth and your fitting my description and now your getting pissed at me. oh and i forgot those kinda veins paul dillet has those real curly veiens llike spagettit. its not that hard to tell. you guys should stop crying, its just my opinion oh well if im wrong im wrong so what c u later my bitches

Yeah thats cool, I was just curious about the giant wide lats and no traps because I havent seen anything like that before. Like I said traps seem to build up with lat work. I am not mad or pissed just curious. I have seen normal looking dudes one month come back a few months later with red faces, zits, bloated etc. I have also seen guys that used to be big look like almost nothing months later (muscle shrink) then get big again after that.

 

[trial0r]

i dont use roids but its easy to pick out who has.......signs are...

thin looking skin, veins always dialeted, too many veins, fat face and ripped body combo, acne all over back and sholders, when theyre at the gym they dont lift hard or heavy or do hardcore exersises like squats and deads but are still ripped and huge fuckers. deformed body structures(old guy at the gym has widest back ever, he has all lats but no traps at all) bloated stomach. real ridgid facial structure i think thats about all. my gym is predominatly users and abusers so many of them look unproportionate and stupid looking so im not shure if i will ever take the plunge into juicing.

youre an idiot plain and simple. fuck you for making such idiotic assumptions.

that "stupid" look is what some people are after so show some fucking respect to people even if they have differing opinions than yours as they may have valid reasons behind them.

and yes i do heavy balls to the wall deads and squats every fucking week without fail.

 

[trial0r]

cytomel-alot of guys juice at my gym and some have some fucked up physiques really out of proportion looking they just dont look natural waaaaay out of proportion bonstructers and all.
i see alot of you people disagreing with me and i have pissed someone off cause i got negative karma. i can always pick a user out of a crowd. i dont know why u guys seem to be getting mad, maybe your realizing that im speaking the truth and your fitting my description and now your getting pissed at me. oh and i forgot those kinda veins paul dillet has those real curly veiens llike spagettit. its not that hard to tell. you guys should stop crying, its just my opinion oh well if im wrong im wrong so what c u later my bitches

goddammit you are so fucking stupid. BONESTRUCTURE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JUICE.

nobody here is your bitch, and by the way you are the biggest fucking tool ive seen next to nyc_boy.

 

[Arioch]

thin looking skin, veins always dialeted, too many veins, fat face and ripped body combo, acne all over back and sholders, when theyre at the gym they dont lift hard or heavy or do hardcore exersises like squats and deads but are still ripped and huge fuckers. deformed body structures(old guy at the gym has widest back ever, he has all lats but no traps at all) bloated stomach. real ridgid facial structure i think thats about all. my gym is predominatly users and abusers so many of them look unproportionate and stupid looking so im not shure if i will ever take the plunge into juicing.

Hmm,I guess I will begin with the fact that my first cycle was 21 years ago (finaject - good ole' days), and my last one ended a few weeks ago. I will now proceed to go over your list in a little bit of detail.

Thin looking skin: Nope. Have rather thick skin, wife comments on this as it is very scratch resistant.

Veins always dialated: Depends on carb intake, hydration level, and bodyfat, as well as activity level. Looks like you were wrong again.

Fat face: Hmm, even at my heaviest my cheekbones are sharply defined. Wrong again.

Ripped body: Well, I am a powerlifter. Try again.

Acne. Had it twice, both times mild. Went out in the sun for a day each time, and it was gone. Your batting average is rather low, yes?

Don't lift hard or heavy: See the I'm a powerlifter bit.

Ripped: See the I'm a powerlifter bit. Again.

Huge: Coach quite a few athletes larger than I, some of whom do not even use creatine.

Deformed body structures: I was a misanthropic freak the day I was born. Made me one hell of a hammer thrower and deadlifter. Do not try train for appearance, so who cares if my physique is symmetrical. I am an athlete, not a model.

Bloated stomach: Nope. Relatively narrow waist, especially for a powerlifter. Despite all of the focus on heavy back, ab, and oblique work.

Wow. Genius, boy. Pure Genius.

And how does juicing affect the bone structure of an adult?