How much protein is too much?

[mojaz87]

There is no place in the body to store excess protein.

yes there is. and its spelled. . . FAT CELLS. . .

the body will not "excrete" excess protien. it will metabolize it. either burn it as an energy source, or store it in fat cells. you don't just shit out the calories.

You're correct whitemahon, but once that protein is converted into fat, it defeats the purpose of taking the protein in the first place. After the protein is converted to amino acids and then fat and stored in fat cells or used up for energy, muscles can no longer use that protein to rebuild. I understand what you are saying, but for the purposes of this discussion AZ increasing his protein intake when he is already getting results will not benefit him and may in fact be to his detrement. Also, if you have a high protein intake but don't get enough calories, the protein many times is burnt as energy instead of going to repair the muscles (as the person intended). One also has to be conscious of the damage that can be done to kidneys if they are unable to rid themselves of the metabolic wastes that are produced from protein metabolism. I am by no means a dietician, my point is only that balance is essential in diet. Eating tons of protein and neglecting other areas won't do much for you.

 

[BLACKDOOG]

You keep doing whatever works good for you. People are going to try and tell you all kinds of scientific shit or shit that they read about in a book but it all boils down to what is actually working for you. If you are making gains and are feeling good keep on doing it the way you are doing it. I drink lots of shakes and I am stronger and look better than a lot of going by the book mother fuckers.

I'm eating 4 meals per day in addition to 4 shakes(70 grams of whey and water) per day--I am seeing such good results due to muscle memory but I could easily drink another 2-3 shakes, is that overkill or should I just do it?

 

[PCfuzz]

Look into it a bit more and you will see that the body can only take in about 50 grams of protein per surving(3 hours each) and the rest you just piss out. Don't waste your money and time bro. the drinks i take have 51 grams of protein and i have 3 per day. PM me and i'll tell you the best (money and health wise) you can take.


Thanx
PCfuzz

 

[whitemahon]

You're correct whitemahon, but once that protein is converted into fat, it defeats the purpose of taking the protein in the first place. After the protein is converted to amino acids and then fat and stored in fat cells or used up for energy, muscles can no longer use that protein to rebuild. I understand what you are saying, but for the purposes of this discussion AZ increasing his protein intake when he is already getting results will not benefit him and may in fact be to his detrement. Also, if you have a high protein intake but don't get enough calories, the protein many times is burnt as energy instead of going to repair the muscles (as the person intended). One also has to be conscious of the damage that can be done to kidneys if they are unable to rid themselves of the metabolic wastes that are produced from protein metabolism. I am by no means a dietician, my point is only that balance is essential in diet. Eating tons of protein and neglecting other areas won't do much for you.

i disagree. i'll challenge you to find one case of kidney disease linked conclusively to high protien intake. your body can easily handle 2.5+ grams per lb.

i understand where you are coming from buddy, but to say that taking in more than one gram of protien per pound of bodyweight is counterproductive is simply not the case. especially when anabolics are in the mix. last i checked this is the "steroid" forum. it's true that the body can only utilize 50-60g per meal for tissue repair (depending on your size), but like everything else, this # is enhanced when on cycle.

a uber high protien diet has many distinct advantages over a more conventional approach. it will get you leaner. protien digest at a rate much slower than most carbs. this combined with its neglegable impact on insulin secretion will all but guarantee it will not be stored as fat. your body will never be deprived of amino acids, and blood glucose levels will be more stable.

i'm not suggesting everyone should consume 3+ grams/lb at the expense of total calories. i'm not suggesting that you dont know what you're talking about. i am suggesting that 1g/lb is not enough for many athletes, especially when anabolics are involved, and or you are cutting.

 

[SgtSlaughter]

It's not so much the quantity throught the day as much as the time period in which the water is consumed. It's not pleasant when experienced.

Hyponatremia

lol... some of you guys missed my post and hyperlink!

I'll make it bigger this time.

There's the proper term and reasons.

 

[anthony518]

Taking all that protein is really just a waste of time, effort, and also money. Depending on the intensity of your workouts and how much torn muscle must be repaired, your body will use the protein it needs and the rest will be excreted/stored as fat. There is no place in the body to store excess protein.

Also, if you're not drinking enough water, and with that much protein you want to be drinking a LOT of water, you will just end up with a dysfunctional kidney. While you are young, you won't notice the effects, but as you grow older and the rate/efficiency at which your organs work decreases, kidney problems may arise. To begin with, you don't need anything more than 1g/lb./day. Maybe 1.5g at the most. 3g will do nothing extra for you. There is also a study that makes a correlation between increased protein consumption and urinary calcium excretion. This loss of calcium through urine could potentially cause problems later on (i.e. osteoporosis/degeneration). Lastly, in order to digest protein, your body requires the vitamin B6. Therefore, high levels of protein in the body will require more of this vitamin for effective digestion.

IMHO, there is such a thing as too much of a good thing. Where you're at right now seems fine, so as long as you're making gains and seeing progress, no need to change the diet.

I only get 1g per lb. Never 3g. You are going to have the worst kidney stones ever. That is too much whey. I always eat as much natural protein fish, chicken, tuna, ect.... Be careful. I alwyas know when I have had too much protein, I get the runs.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Look into it a bit more and you will see that the body can only take in about 50 grams of protein per surving(3 hours each) and the rest you just piss out. Don't waste your money and time bro. the drinks i take have 51 grams of protein and i have 3 per day. PM me and i'll tell you the best (money and health wise) you can take.


Thanx
PCfuzz

I was just going to post the same thing.... taking servings of more than 40-50 grams of protein at a time is pointless because the body can only metabolize that much in a 2-3 hour period...

 

[AinteasybeingDiesie]

Instead of MRP's I just through 2 scoops of oatmeal in the blender with my whey scoop of penut butter & some glutamine & a multi vitaming and your set. I eat 5 good meals and have a shake right after a workout & 1 before bed.

 

[vitamix]

I read somewhere that if you eat ginger or take ginger pills that you can increase the amount of protien that you can digest. This could help you situation.

 

[todoveritas]

It's a misconception to think that excess protein is harmless. In too high a quantity, the byproducts of metabolism will begin to block the filtration system of the kidney and cause protein to start leaking through, resulting in proteinuria. Whether this causes kidney disease is debatable, although it definitely makes kidney disease worse. In any case, 3 gms/lb is way too much! Stick to 2 gms/pound.