How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass?

[germaine91]

Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

Your lost bro.

Hey do your thing we'll do ours. Got over a decade of doing this not gonna argue.

How you cant understand this is beyond me really!? Its laid out cold! Its not the same! As you have your numbers make no sense

A. Pick your body weight you want to be

B. Pick the body fat you want to be

C. X body fat X desired weight

D. Take away total of body fat this will equal your LBM!

E. Take lbm and x that number by 14 or 16 this will be total marcos

F. Divide that marcos by your 50/20/30 protien carbs fats

G. Whatever 50% is of marcos divide by 4 bc 4cals = per gram of protien

Thats how its done am clueless as to what your trying to get at or do lead alone explain bc your still doing a percent but you saying dont do a percent so forth!!!

And how the hell you get a 200lb person eatting 2000 or 4000 cals and the same protien?! This is beside me really are you trolling?

That whole post just shows how extremely little you actually know about nutritional science.

First I'll address how a 200lb has the same protein requirements in two diets. Protein dietary requirements are a function of bodyweight and more importantly LBM. All the research (and there's lots, eg: Evaluation of protein requirements for trained strength athletes: Evaluation of protein requirements for trained strength athletes

Effect of Protein Intake on Strength, Body Composition and Endocrine Changes in Strength/Power Athletes: JISSN | Full text | Effect of Protein Intake on Strength, Body Composition and Endocrine Changes in Strength/Power Athletes ) show this. The research also quite clearly indicates that eating more protein than 1.8g/kg (0.82g/lb) has no additional benefit to muscular or strength gains. Therefore, protein requirements should be set around these targets regardless of caloric intake.

Secondly, that's extremely inaccurate method to try figure out total calories. A better one is the Katch McArdle and then multiply by an activity. Even then it's an estimate and you should monitor weight changes and adjust accordingly to give you a better understanding.

I've already addressed in previous posts why %s don't work. Read them again. You can quite easily end up with extremely over-the-top protein recommendations and potentially levels of dietary fat that are hazardous to health.

And yes, I can see you are clueless.

 

[TheRippedReverend]

That whole post just shows how extremely little you actually know about nutritional science.

First I'll address how a 200lb has the same protein requirements in two diets. Protein dietary requirements are a function of bodyweight and more importantly LBM. All the research (and there's lots, eg: Evaluation of protein requirements for trained strength athletes: Evaluation of protein requirements for trained strength athletes

Effect of Protein Intake on Strength, Body Composition and Endocrine Changes in Strength/Power Athletes: JISSN | Full text | Effect of Protein Intake on Strength, Body Composition and Endocrine Changes in Strength/Power Athletes ) show this. The research also quite clearly indicates that eating more protein than 1.8g/kg (0.82g/lb) has no additional benefit to muscular or strength gains. Therefore, protein requirements should be set around these targets regardless of caloric intake.

Secondly, that's extremely inaccurate method to try figure out total calories. A better one is the Katch McArdle and then multiply by an activity. Even then it's an estimate and you should monitor weight changes and adjust accordingly to give you a better understanding.

I've already addressed in previous posts why %s don't work. Read them again. You can quite easily end up with extremely over-the-top protein recommendations and potentially levels of dietary fat that are hazardous to health.

And yes, I can see you are clueless.

Your clueless

Am done here like I said do what you do. There is no way to get correct marcos trail in error till desired results.

You can post all the wiki bullshit you want kid! There is not science proven on nutrition. Everyone is different motab, physic size structure, digestive, ect....

You can feed a 200lb male same protien as 220-240 shows me just how dumb you are proly taking to some 160lb kid anyway some rwally dont matter to me. What I do works and this is what all my NPC buddys have done

Latter

You mad bro?

 

[TheRippedReverend]

Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

owned!!!

mofo

lmfao!!!!

 

[germaine91]

Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

Your clueless

Am done here like I said do what you do. There is no way to get correct marcos trail in error till desired results.

You can post all the wiki bullshit you want kid! There is not science proven on nutrition. Everyone is different motab, physic size structure, digestive, ect....

You can feed a 200lb male same protien as 220-240 shows me just how dumb you are proly taking to some 160lb kid anyway some rwally dont matter to me. What I do works and this is what all my NPC buddys have done

Latter

You mad bro?

1. You have very poor reading comprehension. I'm clueless? The opposite seems to be true.

2. There is a way to work out macros. I just showed you what all the research says.

3. Wow, ignorance is bliss. Please show where I ever posted anything from wiki. Now you're lying too. And I provided peer reviewed research that has been replicated.

4. I never said a 200lb male would need the same as a 220-240. Either you can't read, are lying, or are just plain ignorant. I said a 200lb male has the same protein requirements regardless of caloric intake.

You, my friend, have been owned.

I'm not trying to cause an argument, merely trying to educate you a bit more on your misconceptions whne it comes to nutrition.

 

[germaine91]

Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

Here's a direct quote from emma leigh regarding fat intake:

Fats: Generally speaking, although the body can get away with short periods of very low fat, in the long run your body NEEDS fat to maintain general health, satiety, and sanity. However, the guidelines for fat requirements are very hard to find, and most of the time they are 'forgotten' until the end of traditional equations. But there are some studies that suggest the following:

If you are following a 'normal distribution' of intake then something between 1g and 2g per Kg bodyweight (0.4-0.9g per pound total weight) is a good starting figure. If you are overweight, then something between 0.66 and 1.8g per kg lean weight (0.35-0.8g per pound) may be more appropriate.
Note 1: Total fat intake is NOT the same as 'essential fats' (essential fats are specific TYPES of fats that are INCLUDED in your total fat intake).
Note 2: For those who are on LOW carb diets, or those who have SPECIAL NEEDS - fat intakes CAN BE HIGHER with values up 2.2g per kg (1g per pound) can be used.

 

[TheRippedReverend]

1. You have very poor reading comprehension. I'm clueless? The opposite seems to be true.

2. There is a way to work out macros. I just showed you what all the research says.

3. Wow, ignorance is bliss. Please show where I ever posted anything from wiki. Now you're lying too. And I provided peer reviewed research that has been replicated.

4. I never said a 200lb male would need the same as a 220-240. Either you can't read, are lying, or are just plain ignorant. I said a 200lb male has the same protein requirements regardless of caloric intake.

You, my friend, have been owned.

I'm not trying to cause an argument, merely trying to educate you a bit more on your misconceptions whne it comes to nutrition.

All I can see is the owned banner

I dont give a shit about your wiki bull shit

Bye now

 

[TheRippedReverend]

The difference between you and me is I know bc I do=have done!

You THiNK you know bc of some internet search lmfao!

This is what all my buddies do for NPC but you prolly think that stands for National Porn Convention I guess.

Your trying to teach me!? Lol son, am way beyond you dude you sound like the guy at the gym that took a 9hr nutrition class and boom I KNOW it all.

 

[germaine91]

Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

The difference between you and me is I know bc I do=have done!

You THiNK you know bc of some internet search lmfao!

This is what all my buddies do for NPC but you prolly think that stands for National Porn Convention I guess.

Your trying to teach me!? Lol son, am way beyond you dude you sound like the guy at the gym that took a 9hr nutrition class and boom I KNOW it all.

Again you mention wiki. Maybe that's where you get your information but I'm beyond both that, and you.

1. You don't know me so you explanation of the difference between us is unjustified and nonsense. The differences are, I am open minded, can acknowledge when I'm wrong/mistaken, take on board new research, listen to more accomplished individuals, follow the latest nutritional and training research. You just spout broscience.

2. I know plenty of successful natural bodybuilders. Look at Eric Helms, Alberto Nunez, Layne Norton, Jeff Alberts, Matt Ogus, Milone. All of these actually know about nutritional and training science. But, that really means nothing. If the biggest, most jacked guy in bodybuilding told you olive oil is the best source of protein, would that make it true just because he said it? That's the basis of your argument. Logical fallacy.

3. And I have not said anything that could be taught in a 9hr nutrition class. That's the type of misinformation that you seem to be saying.

The science, the evidence, the research, everything all supports what I say. You have nothing. Seriously, read up on what I've said. You'll start to learn a lot more and only improve. If you wish to be ignorant and ignore hard, scientific evidence and think you are a special snowflake, then so be it.

 

[TheRippedReverend]

Again you mention wiki. Maybe that's where you get your information but I'm beyond both that, and you.

1. You don't know me so you explanation of the difference between us is unjustified and nonsense. The differences are, I am open minded, can acknowledge when I'm wrong/mistaken, take on board new research, listen to more accomplished individuals, follow the latest nutritional and training research. You just spout broscience.

2. I know plenty of successful natural bodybuilders. Look at Eric Helms, Alberto Nunez, Layne Norton, Jeff Alberts, Matt Ogus, Milone. All of these actually know about nutritional and training science. But, that really means nothing. If the biggest, most jacked guy in bodybuilding told you olive oil is the best source of protein, would that make it true just because he said it? That's the basis of your argument. Logical fallacy.

3. And I have not said anything that could be taught in a 9hr nutrition class. That's the type of misinformation that you seem to be saying.

The science, the evidence, the research, everything all supports what I say. You have nothing. Seriously, read up on what I've said. You'll start to learn a lot more and only improve. If you wish to be ignorant and ignore hard, scientific evidence and think you are a special snowflake, then so be it.

Ummm.... Ok. Lol at broscience! My stats speak for there self. So thanks for teaching lecture.


Show ya rite.

 

[germaine91]

Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

My stats speak for there self.

Another logical fallacy. Thus reinforcing my position as the more reputable/knowledgeable poster.