Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass
And what you fail to understand is that very little, if any, of the peer reviewed research you keep claiming supports your position is done on people using AAS. Therefore it's almost all completely irrelevant.
Studies are rarely done on those using AAS because AAS are illegal. They are also publicly frowned upon, particularly in the era of PED in major sports. As a result, there is no funding to support research into AAS or the effects of different compounds/diets on those using AAS.
Even after being on just one cycle, and that a minor one, I can tell you that everything in your body works differently when you are using AAS. I've been a trainer and worked with clients on their diets and nutrition on and off for close to 20 years. I've personally lost over 80 pounds after a decade of working in corporate America and am very in tune with how my body works - how to manipulate it, how to gain muscle, how to burn fat, etc. Introducing AAS changed absolutely everything. Every single thing - strength, size, diet, appetite, water intake, carb/protein needs, sleep. Every aspect of your life is altered by the introduction of AAS into your system.
So all of the research you keep quoting is about as useless as can be. You made a big deal of discrediting the studies quoted in the BCAA thread because they weren't done on people taking in higher than average levels of protein. But here you seem to think it's ok to use basic nutritional principles for natural athletes as being applicable to those using AAS. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Given that there is no research on this issue, the only way we can get the information we need is to work TOGETHER as a COMMUNITY sharing our experience with different things. Each of us is conducting our own experiment with one subject. Sharing the results contributes to the community's knowledge and helps everyone out. Acting like a know-it-all prick spouting information about a subject you have no experience with doesn't contribute in any meaningful or useful way.
Does rippedrev have a degree in nutrition or published research on macro nutrients? No
Has rippedrev run multiple cycles and experienced what happens to his body when foreign substances are introduced? Yes
So realistically you have two options. You can work towards being a contributing and useful member of the community by accepting that most of what you know doesn't apply to the world of AAS and needs to be considered in that light. Or you can continue to be an arrogant prick allienating everyone you come across until you are eventually banned from the site completely.
Choice is yours.
I didn't come up with it. Leading PHD nutritionists and researchers have.
Like I said:
Peer reviewed scientific research > experience
And what you fail to understand is that very little, if any, of the peer reviewed research you keep claiming supports your position is done on people using AAS. Therefore it's almost all completely irrelevant.
Studies are rarely done on those using AAS because AAS are illegal. They are also publicly frowned upon, particularly in the era of PED in major sports. As a result, there is no funding to support research into AAS or the effects of different compounds/diets on those using AAS.
Even after being on just one cycle, and that a minor one, I can tell you that everything in your body works differently when you are using AAS. I've been a trainer and worked with clients on their diets and nutrition on and off for close to 20 years. I've personally lost over 80 pounds after a decade of working in corporate America and am very in tune with how my body works - how to manipulate it, how to gain muscle, how to burn fat, etc. Introducing AAS changed absolutely everything. Every single thing - strength, size, diet, appetite, water intake, carb/protein needs, sleep. Every aspect of your life is altered by the introduction of AAS into your system.
So all of the research you keep quoting is about as useless as can be. You made a big deal of discrediting the studies quoted in the BCAA thread because they weren't done on people taking in higher than average levels of protein. But here you seem to think it's ok to use basic nutritional principles for natural athletes as being applicable to those using AAS. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Given that there is no research on this issue, the only way we can get the information we need is to work TOGETHER as a COMMUNITY sharing our experience with different things. Each of us is conducting our own experiment with one subject. Sharing the results contributes to the community's knowledge and helps everyone out. Acting like a know-it-all prick spouting information about a subject you have no experience with doesn't contribute in any meaningful or useful way.
Does rippedrev have a degree in nutrition or published research on macro nutrients? No
Has rippedrev run multiple cycles and experienced what happens to his body when foreign substances are introduced? Yes
So realistically you have two options. You can work towards being a contributing and useful member of the community by accepting that most of what you know doesn't apply to the world of AAS and needs to be considered in that light. Or you can continue to be an arrogant prick allienating everyone you come across until you are eventually banned from the site completely.
Choice is yours.