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How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass?

Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

I didn't come up with it. Leading PHD nutritionists and researchers have.

Like I said:

Peer reviewed scientific research > experience

And what you fail to understand is that very little, if any, of the peer reviewed research you keep claiming supports your position is done on people using AAS. Therefore it's almost all completely irrelevant.

Studies are rarely done on those using AAS because AAS are illegal. They are also publicly frowned upon, particularly in the era of PED in major sports. As a result, there is no funding to support research into AAS or the effects of different compounds/diets on those using AAS.

Even after being on just one cycle, and that a minor one, I can tell you that everything in your body works differently when you are using AAS. I've been a trainer and worked with clients on their diets and nutrition on and off for close to 20 years. I've personally lost over 80 pounds after a decade of working in corporate America and am very in tune with how my body works - how to manipulate it, how to gain muscle, how to burn fat, etc. Introducing AAS changed absolutely everything. Every single thing - strength, size, diet, appetite, water intake, carb/protein needs, sleep. Every aspect of your life is altered by the introduction of AAS into your system.

So all of the research you keep quoting is about as useless as can be. You made a big deal of discrediting the studies quoted in the BCAA thread because they weren't done on people taking in higher than average levels of protein. But here you seem to think it's ok to use basic nutritional principles for natural athletes as being applicable to those using AAS. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Given that there is no research on this issue, the only way we can get the information we need is to work TOGETHER as a COMMUNITY sharing our experience with different things. Each of us is conducting our own experiment with one subject. Sharing the results contributes to the community's knowledge and helps everyone out. Acting like a know-it-all prick spouting information about a subject you have no experience with doesn't contribute in any meaningful or useful way.

Does rippedrev have a degree in nutrition or published research on macro nutrients? No
Has rippedrev run multiple cycles and experienced what happens to his body when foreign substances are introduced? Yes

So realistically you have two options. You can work towards being a contributing and useful member of the community by accepting that most of what you know doesn't apply to the world of AAS and needs to be considered in that light. Or you can continue to be an arrogant prick allienating everyone you come across until you are eventually banned from the site completely.

Choice is yours.
 
Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

And what you fail to understand is that very little, if any, of the peer reviewed research you keep claiming supports your position is done on people using AAS. Therefore it's almost all completely irrelevant.

I stopped reading after this as I clearly stated any information was for people off gear, not on.
 
Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

I stopped reading after this as I clearly stated any information was for people off gear, not on.

Which just means that your posts were completely useless, irrelevant and probably should have been deleted from the thread. The original post was from someone coming off a cycle and asked questions in the context of AAS usage - post-cycle in this case. So all your posts were nothing more than you spouting off information that has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

And that's why I pointed out in one of the first posts in the thread that you have no knowledge or background in this particular area. Nothing you've said in this thread has any bearing on those using AAS.
 
Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

So, youre on a cycle putting on weight, and you end the cycle up X amount of pounds. Once the gear gets out of your system how do you know what the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain the new muscle mass?

Or does it not even matter if your body is gonna do what your body is gonna do after a cycle and it will go back to homeostasis precycle weight no matter what. Unless you blast and cruise


I'm not in the business of helping people; I disowned being a humanitarian a long time ago. However, I have known you for a long time and I like you. Therefore, I don't mind giving you some suggestions..

You can keep a good amount of your gains. Your questions are sort of broad and there is NO exact formula that will help you keep the muscle you gained. The information that was given so far is purely anecdotal; I can give you a couple different methods to try that will help you preserve a decent amount of muscle..What were/are your stats while on cycle and what was/is your diet like while on the sauce? Give me this info Dave, so I could give you a rough estimation on how to adjust things accordingly to adapt correctly to hormonal regression, that will help you maintain as much muscle as possible. It would be virtually impossible to give you a precise estimation. But I can suggest a few ideas that could help you keep a good amount of your gains. Recovery protein assimilation and cortisol levels become issues when coming off. So, that's the premise we will work from...
 
Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

Which just means that your posts were completely useless, irrelevant and probably should have been deleted from the thread. The original post was from someone coming off a cycle and asked questions in the context of AAS usage - post-cycle in this case. So all your posts were nothing more than you spouting off information that has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

And that's why I pointed out in one of the first posts in the thread that you have no knowledge or background in this particular area. Nothing you've said in this thread has any bearing on those using AAS.

Wrong again. My posts were entirely useful, relevant and should not be deleted because it's true. One should not figure out macros based off a percentage of overall calories. They should be based on bodyweight and LBM.

Again, the discussion of diet while on AAS is not the topic at hand. Maybe you should read over the last few pages. It's how he derived the macros, which is incorrect.
 
Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

I'm not in the business of helping people; I disowned being a humanitarian a long time ago. However, I have known you for a long time and I like you. Therefore, I don't mind giving you some suggestions..

You can keep a good amount of your gains. Your questions are sort of broad and there is NO exact formula that will help you keep the muscle you gained. The information that was given so far is purely anecdotal; I can give you a couple different methods to try that will help you preserve a decent amount of muscle..What were/are your stats while on cycle and what was/is your diet like while on the sauce? Give me this info Dave, so I could give you a rough estimation on how to adjust things accordingly to adapt correctly to hormonal regression, that will help you maintain as much muscle as possible. It would be virtually impossible to give you a precise estimation. But I can suggest a few ideas that could help you keep a good amount of your gains. Recovery protein assimilation and cortisol levels become issues when coming off. So, that's the premise we will work from...

I'd recommend listening to this guy over Reverend OP.
 
Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

I'd recommend listening to this guy over Reverend OP.

This is the third thread today that you have turned into a fuckin mess...cock measuring contest/drama.

Bant untill you learn how to stop this BS.
 
Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

I think feeling better or worse in the working time is the right measure.
 
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