How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass?

[TheRippedReverend]

How on earth can you not comprehend that you are still giving a percentage split, just not breaking it down to a 3 way number? You're doing the exact same thing, except you're wording it differently, and you're WAY off on macro intake for a healthy diet.

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[TheRippedReverend]

Wow, just wow.

1. What 200lb male, who lifts weights, would eat 2,000kcal? It would be closer to 4,000kcal in reality.

2. 40/40/20 is a percentage split. 50/30/20 is a percentage split. 1g/b protein & 0.45g/lb fat are requirements based of people's weight & LBM, not a percentage of their diet. How on earth can you not comprehend that?

Uh???

No shit its a split you want to know how many carbs protien and fats on a daily intake.

 

[bigbassturd]

Try reading it again bud!

50/20/30

Im not gonna do everything for everyone they can add!

Not hard to figure grams of f
Protien, carbs, and fat!

I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to the guy who said you were wrong, and then did exactly what you did

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[bigbassturd]

It's like talking to children.

We were having a discussion, this shit doesn't fly on this site. I advise you to watch who you disrespect in this section of EF.

 

[TheRippedReverend]

I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to the guy who said you were wrong, and then did exactly what you did

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Sorry bud. Man I was like wtf am wrong? From BB? i read my shit like 10 times although horrible write up on my part was in a hurry.

 

[bigbassturd]

Sorry bud. Man I was like wtf am wrong? From BB? i read my shit like 10 times although horrible write up on my part was in a hurry.

haha yeah you know me better bro! No worries.

I like your approach though, I always keep my macros the same, just increase total maintenance calories by 500 for the cycle, and then continue that afterwards to sustain new mass.

A huge problem guys have is they'll weigh 190, run a cycle, gain to 200 and then keep eating like they're still 190. It doesn't work that way, you have to continue to eat more food than before.

500 cals is a decent bump in your number, and you can play with it either way to suit your personal needs.

Tough question to amswer really, as everyone is so different

 

[TheRippedReverend]

I dont know where i got that from could of sworn you quoted me

K hit when i get to my cpu for bb

 

[TheRippedReverend]

haha yeah you know me better bro! No worries.

I like your approach though, I always keep my macros the same, just increase total maintenance calories by 500 for the cycle, and then continue that afterwards to sustain new mass.

A huge problem guys have is they'll weigh 190, run a cycle, gain to 200 and then keep eating like they're still 190. It doesn't work that way, you have to continue to eat more food than before.

500 cals is a decent bump in your number, and you can play with it either way to suit your personal needs.

Tough question to amswer really, as everyone is so different

Yeah, I do thats why I was like what!? BB b having a bad day lol was gonna ask if you were on tren lol

Then I realized it was just my dumbass lol. I knowz my weights but I cantz read.

Anyway, I think most of us here were taught dont cut the wood too short. Cut it longer so if you need to you can cut it again to the correct length. In theory meaning that 500 cals extra not were you wanna be? Add anther 500..... Keep adding if needed untill desired results.

The thing is everyones motab is different so marcos is hard and they dont realize you gotta learn ur body. Me I eat 3200 cals ed and am at 220-223@11% Natty someone else eat the same exact way, train ect.... and be 200 trail and error I say

 

[germaine91]

Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to the guy who said you were wrong, and then did exactly what you did

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How is 1g/lb protein for a 200lb male, the same as saying eat 50% of your calories from protein.

One of them is constant regardless of caloric intake and based off bodyweight/LBM. The other is an arbritrary and forever changing number because your calories dictate it, not your bodies needs. You get it now?

Uh???

No shit its a split you want to know how many carbs protien and fats on a daily intake.

Yes and you should not be basing it off of a percentage of your totla calories. they should be calculated by dietary requirements through bodyweight and LBM.

EG Your way:

2 200lb Male.
A eats 2,000kcal. B eats 4,000kcal.
Person A with 50 % protein eats 250g protein. Person B eats 500g protein.
2 totally different numbers for 2 of the same people just because you based it off a % of their calories.

In reality they both only need ~200g protein. Those calories could be better spent elsewhere.

 

[TheRippedReverend]

How is 1g/lb protein for a 200lb male, the same as saying eat 50% of your calories from protein.

One of them is constant regardless of caloric intake and based off bodyweight/LBM. The other is an arbritrary and forever changing number because your calories dictate it, not your bodies needs. You get it now?



Yes and you should not be basing it off of a percentage of your totla calories. they should be calculated by dietary requirements through bodyweight and LBM.

EG Your way:

2 200lb Male.
A eats 2,000kcal. B eats 4,000kcal.
Person A with 50 % protein eats 250g protein. Person B eats 500g protein.
2 totally different numbers for 2 of the same people just because you based it off a % of their calories.

In reality they both only need ~200g protein. Those calories could be better spent elsewhere.

Your lost bro.

Hey do your thing we'll do ours. Got over a decade of doing this not gonna argue.

How you cant understand this is beyond me really!? Its laid out cold! Its not the same! As you have your numbers make no sense

A. Pick your body weight you want to be

B. Pick the body fat you want to be

C. X body fat X desired weight

D. Take away total of body fat this will equal your LBM!

E. Take lbm and x that number by 14 or 16 this will be total marcos

F. Divide that marcos by your 50/20/30 protien carbs fats

G. Whatever 50% is of marcos divide by 4 bc 4cals = per gram of protien

Thats how its done am clueless as to what your trying to get at or do lead alone explain bc your still doing a percent but you saying dont do a percent so forth!!!

And how the hell you get a 200lb person eatting 2000 or 4000 cals and the same protien?! This is beside me really are you trolling?