Having a hard time getting past trace ketosis after refeed...

[beastboy]

Seems like each week it is harder and takes longet to get back in. I "seem" to show trace the day after, and the color flucuates all the time....and it takes 4 days to get into small/Mod ketosis. What gives? I'm not doing anything differently....or is that the problem?

 

[kentucky]

dont stress. At least you are in it.

 

[overhead]

I do not think those sticks are a very accurate way of finding if you are in ketosis. If I drank tons of water, which I did on a regular basis the sticks would show little if any color, if I cut the water back the stick would turn a nice shade of purple. So, I stopped using them.

 

[the nature boy]

try a nice long session of cardio for like 45 minutes to an hour. that should really do a good job of burning off any glucose in your system. it worked for me.

 

[bds20002002]

also, use the strips in the late evening, or as soon as u wake up. i do mine first thing in the am.

 

[beastboy]

try a nice long session of cardio for like 45 minutes to an hour. that should really do a good job of burning off any glucose in your system. it worked for me.

What type of intensity?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Hmmmm.... what are you eating on the first day? I find it pretty easy to go back into keto in less than 24 hours, even without doing any cardio first. Just cut out your carbs and eat tons of fat. While different people have certainly levels of resistance to going into keto, this seems to work for me very consistantly. Once you have gotten used to doing keto diets your body should adapt, and accept it as a natural state. Then again, I do low carbs for bulking too, so my body is just just to useing fat for fuel.

 

[beastboy]

Hmmmm.... what are you eating on the first day? I find it pretty easy to go back into keto in less than 24 hours, even without doing any cardio first. Just cut out your carbs and eat tons of fat. While different people have certainly levels of resistance to going into keto, this seems to work for me very consistantly. Once you have gotten used to doing keto diets your body should adapt, and accept it as a natural state. Then again, I do low carbs for bulking too, so my body is just just to useing fat for fuel.

I'm under 20grams of carbs a day.....I am eating areound 50/50 fat/pro. Would upping the fat help get me in quicker?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

There is your problem. Up the fat to 70% (80 might be better). I usually just shoot for fat to protien grams in a 2 to 1 ratio on the first day.

 

[beastboy]

There is your problem. Up the fat to 70% (80 might be better). I usually just shoot for fat to protien grams in a 2 to 1 ratio on the first day.

What are you eating that day to hit that?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

-Steak. You can always add extra olive oil or other fats to get to a 2 to 1 ratio
-Macadamia nutts. They only have 3 grams of protien per 1/4 cup, 23 grams of fat per 1/4 cup. Only 1.8 grams of absorbable carbs. Walnutts are almost as good.
-cheese, you can easily get cheese with 9 grams of fat and 7 grams of protien per serving. A handful of nutts with it can get you there. Or youc an make a salid with it and cover it in olive oil.

 

[the nature boy]

What type of intensity?

between light to moderate.

 

[SubjectiveIllusion]

*exclamer* Subjective information..

What type of intensity?

I say about 80-90% MHR (maximum heart rate) for about 10-20 minutes. You should be excercising multiple times throughout the day, evenly spaced and timed with meals if possible.

Why?

Your primary objective is to burn off the glycogen in your liver. After this is accomplished your body will be able to go into ketosis..

..The higher the intensity the more the body prefers glycogen as its source of energy (as opposed to fat) and the quicker you'll deplete these levels and go into ketosis. A shorter excercise duration will allow the body to use a higher percentage of glycogen as opposed to fat as its energy source. This is because when you excercise for a short time the body can't slip into its fat-burning mode that it likes to do when you go for a long duration.

..So,.. if you were to be at rest, your body is burning 65-80% fat and 20-35% glycogen. And if you were to excercise at a running intensity (80-90% MHR) you would be burning about 90% glycogen and 10% fat.

I welcome your comments...