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Gaining fat but I havent changed a thing!!!

Certainly cannot agree with Cornholio that the Tanita is worthless.

Is the mirror better? Better for what exactly? The mirror, the caliper, the BF scale are all single tools not the last word on how much BF you have.

1) mirror, good for seeing your hardness, am i puffy or not? Cant always tell if the thicker skin is fat or water however in the mirror
2) The caliper, ONLY AS GOOD AS THE PERSON USING IT. Also, how many measures do they take and how nice is the caliper? Can also be affected by level of hydration.
3) BF scale ,yes they all use electric impedence to figure BF but can give good approximations if used correctly.

Use them all if you can, DONT rely on any single one i think

VLC, the readings you have in one day that change 3% (26-29) could only be cause you were hydrated at one reading and dehyraded the second. Mesure the same time every day after the same number of meals and make sure you are fully hydrated. Use it this way and it is a good mesure of fat increasing or decreasing. (remember in your menses it will jump a little because of the more water)

The more expensive one i mention makes reading in .5% amounts. Like 10.5, 11, or 11.5. Yours is fully percent like 10, 11, 12 and will go up or down to closest full percent. No other different between what i mention and you have now.

o yes, i swear i am not a tanita salesperson :D
 
magdelana said:
Certainly cannot agree with Cornholio that the Tanita is worthless.



hehehehe...you don't have to agree with me...somethings are true whether you believe them or not.....

.....funny though that you listed it dead last.

:)
 
Any method that cannot accomodate changes in hydration levels or cannot exclude visceral bodyfat is useless to a bodybuilder. That puts Tanita well below the bottom of the useful scale in my books.
 
Arioch said:
Gladiola, I have done suprising amount of low-carb dieting. If you want to know anything about what I have done, ask away.

And after a few days with low to zero carbs, you get used to it. I personally have found it easier to cut carbs to zero, get over the headache, then bring them back up *gradually* until they are at the target level. I train far too much and too often to manage any real sort of rotation-type diet, except an extreme on like a CKD, where I plan all of my activities around the diet.

ide like to know info..though dont know what to ask..maybe u could post your low carb diet.

I personally have tried zero-low carb and it awful. I have to have at least 40-50g consisting of mainly vegetables..no grains etc.

if you fill up on these..meals become pretty big, and choosing veg w high fiber is a must! this will make u full.
i also make sure that if im hungry after ive finished a meal, ill rather have a black tea or diet jello...often a second serving isnt the solution. o and ofcourse H20!
 
I will post the details on Monday. Will be enjoying quality time this weekend.

I generally get my fiber via the supplement route using psyllium husks. This may not be the greatest, but the lower the carbs the quicker I get into ketosis.

Some people just cannot handle the ultra-low carb routine, and it is not the best to gain mass on. My wife would be one example, as she tried for three weeks and went schizo, even more so than usual.

Brief description of how I trained during the CKD:
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=134442&pagenumber=2
 
I think you will find in general that women do not do as well on ultra low carb/keto diets. Of course there are always exceptions, and I have anecdotally noticed that addition of AAS seems to improve a woman's tolerance for low carbs. Aside from feeling like death on keto diets, the majority of women that try them seem to have unacceptable rebound fat gain afterwards so all in all I wouldn't worry if you can't stick to no carb dieting. Just reduce your carbs (preferably cycle them high and low) and stick to the high fiber/low GI stuff as much as possible.
 
Arioch said:
I generally get my fiber via the supplement route using psyllium husks. This may not be the greatest, but the lower the carbs the quicker I get into ketosis.


yes! this is awsome...but youve got to be careful not to go overboard w it, otherwise you'll be in the toilet every 5 mins;)
 
Well just from the discussion on the stress/cortisol/fat gain thread I am pretty convinced that stress was the cause of this odd fat gain. It was about 4-5 pounds worth, from 132 to 136/7 according to the scale. And all in the gut, in the form of a spare tire (especially love handles). The graduation I am going to is exactly one week from today. I'd be really happy if I dropped 3 or 4 pounds OF FAT by then. I know that sounds like a lot to drop in one week, but its not an unreasonable goal, is it??

If I somehow managed to get, say, 170g protein (eat fish), 45g fat, and maybe 100g cho, did 60 mins cardio medium intensity and kept lifting, would that be enough to reach my goals? I have been eating about the same numbers just the reverse in carbs and proteins and doing more like 45 mins cardio. Would the switch be enough to do it?

And yes, I did read Spatts' last minute jitters thread. I'm not looking to drop water 2 days out. I'm looking to drop 3 pounds of fat in 7 days.
 
VeggieLifterChick said:
If I somehow managed to get, say, 170g protein (eat fish), 45g fat, and maybe 100g cho, did 60 mins cardio medium intensity and kept lifting, would that be enough to reach my goals? I have been eating about the same numbers just the reverse in carbs and proteins and doing more like 45 mins cardio. Would the switch be enough to do it?


No offense - but that is 1485 calories - less than what you WERE averaging....why would you decrease them???
 
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