First Cycle, suggestions please

[Elvia1023]

I should add I am far from a high dose advocate but again you will never get your 1st cycle back. There is a reason guys get amazing results on 50mg avar or dbol for a 1st cycle. Take advantage of that response. Make sure your gear is gtg too... too much crap around these days. Even 400mg test and an oral would be great... 30mg dbol or tbol for example.

 

[wootoom]

Im a huge believer in HCG. Never not used it for any cycle

 

[O1s480]

Im a huge believer in HCG. Never not used it for any cycle

HCG is definitely something I've thought of adding. Didn't want to get too crazy since it's somewhat of a basic cycle. I still have some time though, I'll do a little more research on it.

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[O1s480]

I should add I am far from a high dose advocate but again you will never get your 1st cycle back. There is a reason guys get amazing results on 50mg avar or dbol for a 1st cycle. Take advantage of that response. Make sure your gear is gtg too... too much crap around these days. Even 400mg test and an oral would be great... 30mg dbol or tbol for example.

So basically you advise at least 500mg per week test because your first cycle is always the best response?

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[Synthesized]

Do you think 250mg/week will be worth it for a newbie? I hear a lot of people say 250 is a waste and to start at 500. And I hear you about clomid, a lot of the forums I read the guys were taking a little higher doses. But the perfect PACK protocol does have you start at 100mg/week.

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250mg is what I run as a base just to mimic my body's natural T when I blast high dose tren or other compounds. I would never expect to make gains on such a low dose of test and don't advise you to go so slow it would be a waste of a cycle in my opinion.

 

[Synthesized]

Do you think 250mg/week will be worth it for a newbie? I hear a lot of people say 250 is a waste and to start at 500. And I hear you about clomid, a lot of the forums I read the guys were taking a little higher doses. But the perfect PACK protocol does have you start at 100mg/week.

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250mg is what I run as a base just to mimic my body's natural T when I blast high dose tren or other compounds. I would never expect to make gains on such a low dose of test and don't advise you to go so slow it would be a waste of a cycle in my opinion.

 

[bonacris]

I'm not a fan of winny. It works but just didn't agree with me var would be a better option.. there are plenty of legit online sources so don't feel like you have to take just what your local dealer has..

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[O1s480]

I'm not a fan of winny. It works but just didn't agree with me var would be a better option.. there are plenty of legit online sources so don't feel like you have to take just what your local dealer has..

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Ya I've been over at evo a little bit checking some sources. Seems var is kinda rare from their highest rated sources.

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