first cycle options which one would you choose

[PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch]

sup bros!
here are my 2 choices for my first cycle:
1)qv test enanth 500 mg wk / 10 wks

2)qv oxavet 40 mg wk/ 9 wks. 10-15 gr. creatine daily.


by the way, I have liquidex, nolva, clomid and hcg.

my goal: 10 pounds lean muscle mass.
less side efects.

Looking to gain strenght and aerobic performance.

cos i play ball AAA mexican league.

I have everything to start, just need white flag on coments
I can get anything from qv or sydgroup so if there's anything i can add...
suggestions are welcome!!
thanx!!

 

[gimp]

you won't see much more aerobic performance with test. winny is the best for increased performance in my experience. as for adding muscle, test is likley your best choice. it's all about diet and training though.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

That much test EN a week is going to give you some sides, you might conisder taking 250mg/week and then stacking a different one.

40mg of oxavet per week won't do you any good at all. Now, 40mg/day will do some good for you. If you do that, then the second cycle is likely to be much better for you overall.

They won't do a thing for aerobic performance though. You should notice good strength gains if your diet and workout routine are solid.

 

[PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch]

thanx bro, i know test wont do me more aerobic enhanced... let me be more specific
i cover third base.
If you where in my position
¿what would you choose?
remember, it´s my first cycle, and i guess i can gain lean muscle mass with oxandrolone only.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

I personally would choose the anavar.

 

[PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch]

yeah bro, my mistake i mean 40 mg / day 9 wks.

 

[PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch]

bump for more opinions please!!!

 

[GoldenDelicious]

many new guys have done exceedingly well on 250 test as a first cycle. double what your goal is, to be precise. not suggesting you do it of course

 

[napolean22]

I'd go w/ the anavar, and a low dose of test...

var: 40mg/day wks 5-13
test: 250 wks 1-10

anavar is an anabolic steroid, while test has a good androgenic steroid. This would be a good combo.

 

[PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch]

hey bro your combo sounds interesting, but how should i split the test ... i men monday injections of 250 or should i do 125 monday and 125 friday.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

I'd go w/ the anavar, and a low dose of test...

var: 40mg/day wks 5-13
test: 250 wks 1-10

anavar is an anabolic steroid, while test has a good androgenic steroid. This would be a good combo.

why would you care about androgenic effects?

 

[PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch]

i guess because of the cynergy it can cause
but for a first cycle, I´m considerig of using only one compound, just to see how i react to it.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

synergy is something a little different. synergy just means 2 agents causing the same outcome additively when used together

androgenic effects are not something anyone would really want...all we give a toss about is anabolism (unless youre doing hrt or something)

 

[napolean22]

androgenic effects are not something anyone would really want

I strongly disagree. Androgens are a good thing (in moderation)...we all know that androgens (at a high dose) will lead to nasty sides in most.


You can look at it like this (over-simplified)
Anabolic --> muscle growth
Androgenic --> muscle strength

Androgenic substances give you the ability to lift heavier. Anabolic substances give you the ability to recover faster. Hand in hand.

 

[gimp]

Agreed, I hope we didn't hi-jack this thread!

Androgenic also refers to muscle sparing...ie anti-catabolic, although all steroids have both androgen/anabolic properites, many are either more anabolic or androgenic.

 

[GeneticFreak18]

for a first cycle test enanthate 250mg/wk will give you good results, up it to 500mg/wk next cycle and through in some eq. always think ahead..

 

[napolean22]

btw...when running the 250mg/wk, you want to divide up the doses like this

125mg Monday
125mg Thursday

 

[PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch]

ok i have the oxandrolone so... should i go stack it with the test
maybe wks 2-10. at 40 mg / day ?
or shoud i save it for later ?
opinions please !

 

[Hardgainer23]

I would recommend taking 400 to 600 mgs of QV deca for 10 to 12 weeks for the first cycle. With this you will have lean muscle gains and then take a test like enanthate after the deca was finished. You will lose most of your gains from enanthate if it is used on the first cycle.

 

[PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch]

DECA! SHIT I WOULDN'T TOUCH THAT SHIT ! A FRIEND OF MINA GOT DECA DICK ABOUT 2 years ago and he´s still recovering from that shit
no man, no deca for me .
I´m afraid of it big time, my general is still in active duty.

 

[canadianhitman]

Good call steering clear of Deca....not only for the crash factor, but you don't want the bloat either. I'd go with EQ as the long-estered anabolic base for your cycle...it promotes lean gains, and will actually help your aerobic capacity due to the way that it increases red blood cell count.

 

[PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch]

tnx hitman, eq & anavar .
sounds interesting, guess im going to give it a try