First contest ever any suggestions!!!

[B-rad]

Ok I have a contest Aug 11th It is my first one, im am kind of nervous. MY diet is pretty solid just wondering if I should change any of my dosages? IM on week 11 but just started all short ester cutting compounds last week. Got up to 238 lbs plan on being 215 to 220 lbs for the show I am 6'3 any sugestions appeciated, Karma for all.

winny 60mg every day
p
Test prop 150 mg EOD
Test E 600 mg every 7 days
Tren ace 75 EOD
EQ 600 mg EOD

 

[B-rad]

o ya 100 mg masteron EOD

 

[Nelson Montana]

The only difference I'd make is to drop the enth and replace it with Proviron. That'll make you come in nice and dry.

You can add this as a finishing touch the last 2 weeks: http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=919&cat=0&page=1

Other than that, train fast, eat clean, practice your posing and relax. A contest isn't going to change the the world or the outcome of your life. The work is done. The night is just a show. Be proud and have fun.

 

[B-rad]

I know i need to relax I am 5 weeks out and allready anxious

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

what's you current BF%. 5 weeks out you really need to have your diet more than "pretty solid", it's got to be spot on. If you don't feel like it's the hardest and more grueling thing you've ever done (the diet part) then you're not dieting hard enough. You've just got to step it up (not a flame, just trying to get you on track). Losing 23lbs in the last 5 weeks is going to be tough - even with the water weight you're going to lose. It can definitely be done though.

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

When in 2005 I deff was not on any Enth 5wks out at 600mg...that would make me bloat way to much.
I was on
prop
var/then to winni.
tren
and a boat load of eq and that tapered off a bit 2wks out
and a touch of GH to spice things up a bit..lol

You only have 4wks left of lifting..ITS HARDCORE NOW BROTHER..."pretty solid" wont do it. Its pain chicken and fish alternating every other meal 8x ED with broccoli or lettuce and organic healthy fat salad dressing just a touch...

I dont know what your bf is but at 6'3 you really need to come in at 220

 

[B-rad]

what's you current BF%. 5 weeks out you really need to have your diet more than "pretty solid", it's got to be spot on. If you don't feel like it's the hardest and more grueling thing you've ever done (the diet part) then you're not dieting hard enough. You've just got to step it up (not a flame, just trying to get you on track). Losing 23lbs in the last 5 weeks is going to be tough - even with the water weight you're going to lose. It can definitely be done though.

I have a high metabolism i can get down to 4 to 5% in 5 weeks hopefully, I can eat cheeseburger and fries and still at 9-10% lol.

 

[B-rad]

what's you current BF%.

Right now im about as lean as you are in your avatar so whatever bodyfat you are in that pitcure im pretty close to that. a little bigger though j/k

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

thats about 10-11%

 

[B-rad]

[i just switched to prop and going to drop the test E 2 weeks out. I want to keep as much size as possible at 6'3. Im competing in novice class since it is first NPC competion. dates are August 11th



QUOTE=LftHndPwrHouse]When in 2005 I deff was not on any testosterone enanthate 5wks out at 600mg...that would make me bloat way to much.
I was on
testosterone propionate
Anavar - oxandrolone - /then to winni.
trenbolone
and a boat load of Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - and that tapered off a bit 2wks out
and a touch of gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - to spice things up a bit..lol

You only have 4wks left of lifting..ITS HARDCORE NOW BROTHER..."pretty solid" wont do it. Its pain chicken and fish alternating every other meal 8x ED with broccoli or lettuce and organic healthy fat salad dressing just a touch...

I dont know what your bf is but at 6'3 you really need to come in at 220[/QUOTE]

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

I got that..but you can keep a good size with 600mg of prop...you will just by drier and harder

 

[B-rad]

thanks for all the helpfull imput i will post pics after competions

 

[Mac173]

Why 2.1g of eq?

 

[noclue9415]

you plan on hitting the letro about two weeks out?

 

[todoveritas]

I've got one in 6 weeks, so I know how you feel. A few pearls that have helped me in the past.
1) Drop the t3st E and EQ 2-3 weeks out and switch to prop or susp (susp is the secret weapon);
2) add mast 100 EOD now if you can get ahold of it...Nothing makes you harder;
3) add anavar or winny 50 ED now as well.
4) I salt the hell out of my food and waterlog myself (2 gallon ED) until one week out then cut all NaCl and watch the water flow out (this eliminates the need for heavy diuretics); also
5) If you are going to carb deplete/load, the time to do a dry run is NOW to see if it works for you-(in about 25% of people it leaves them flat.) I would recommend 0 carbs X 2-3 days followed by 500 gms the next day and 250 gms the day after.
I do a garbage load myself (ice cream and sugar cookies) but this works on relatively few people but DAMN does it do it for me!
6) 1/2 hour to line-up, I take 1 gm niacin; 1 glass red wine and 30 mg D-bol and watch the veins explode.............

 

[gautho]

400 proteins
under 150 carbs
drop enanthate at 3 weeks out
add test suspension at 3 weeks out
aldactone on hand for last prep week
avoid lasix since your a novice
consider T3 at 4 weeks out since your 23 lbs off
consult gautho for any ????'s

 

[X Man]

400 proteins
under 150 carbs
drop enanthate at 3 weeks out
add test suspension at 3 weeks out
aldactone on hand for last prep week
avoid lasix since your a novice
consider T3 at 4 weeks out since your 23 lbs off
consult gautho for any ????'s

great bro right there listen to his advice....

ive never done a competed, but dieted and preped like i was going to do a contest and i felt 40mcgs of clen and 25mcgs of t3 did wonders without killing to much muscle

 

[gautho]

I've got one in 6 weeks, so I know how you feel. A few pearls that have helped me in the past.
1) Drop the t3st E and Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - 2-3 weeks out and switch to testosterone propionate or testosterone suspension (testosterone suspension is the secret weapon);
2) add mast 100 EOD now if you can get ahold of it...Nothing makes you harder;
3) add anavar or Winstrol - stanozolol 50 ED now as well.
4) I salt the hell out of my food and waterlog myself (2 gallon ED) until one week out then cut all NaCl and watch the water flow out (this eliminates the need for heavy diuretics); also
5) If you are going to carb deplete/load, the time to do a dry run is NOW to see if it works for you-(in about 25% of people it leaves them flat.) I would recommend 0 carbs X 2-3 days followed by 500 gms the next day and 250 gms the day after.
I do a garbage load myself (ice cream and sugar cookies) but this works on relatively few people but DAMN does it do it for me!
6) 1/2 hour to line-up, I take 1 gm niacin; 1 glass red wine and 30 mg Dianabol - methandrostenolone - and watch the veins explode.............

Yep, suspension is the secret weapon. Let the fools continue to think it'll leave you all bloated. A bigger secret is to stack it with halotestin the last 2 weeks. Also, don't forget about a little slin to drive that glucose into the muscle cells the last few days when carb loading.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I'll throw in another 2 cents here.

I learned the hard way that all the carb loading and carb depleting and T3 and T4 and salt restriction and sodium loading and mixing and matching of this compound and that compound and doing this the night before and that half hour before ...it's all guesswork.

Even the pros will tell you they did everything right and wound up looking better either 3 days before or 3 days afer the show.

The body is in a continual state of flux and it's IMPOSSIBLE to dial perfection in at any given moment.

So I reiterate...

You're not curing cancer. You're not going to win a million dollars. It's just a show.

I like the old timers philosophy the best. When Zabo Koweski (the man who has won more titles than just about anyone) was asked what he did to prepare for a show his response was..."I ate clean for 3 days prior to stepping onstage." That's it. You're either in shape or you're not.

Don Howorth admitted he was taking a hit off a joint when they called his name to come out of stage the night he won the Mr. America crown. Sergio Oliva was drunk when he won the Olympia.

Everybody is taking this WAAAAY too seriously. Just have fun bro. Just have fun.

 

[X Man]

i listened to gautho and used up my remaining test susp ( just because i wasnt planning on using it for a while and obv its because its suspended in water i dont want to let it sit for 6 months) let me tell you it rocked, def didnt notice any bloat with it and that was only shooting once a day

 

[gautho]

Yep, suspension is the secret weapon. Let the fools continue to think it'll leave you all bloated. A bigger secret is to stack it with halotestin the last 2 weeks. Also, don't forget about a little insulin to drive that glucose into the muscle cells the last few days when carb loading.

hey todo, i also here that a chocolate hersey bar does wonders similar to the glass of red wine you speak of for bringing out vascularity. That also 1/2 hour prior to lineup. Also for your first show, leave the insulin alone get some valuable experience and use that later on down the road as an advanced technique. For what its worth, the saturday to the tuesday before the show i carb deplete, on wednesday i take in 2000 carbs, thursday 1500 carbs, and friday 500 carbs up until noon, then i take in a few proteins. I cut water at 4 pm friday until after prejudging. Then i take in a meal of my choice with a drink of water. If i don't feel certain that i'm victorious then i cut water again until after night show. Just an occasional ice chip to keep the lips from cracking. Don't forget the lip balm, the lights are brutal. Don't forget to shave, you don't want to look like you just knocked off of work.

 

[todoveritas]

hey todo, i also here that a chocolate hersey bar does wonders similar to the glass of red wine you speak of for bringing out vascularity. That also 1/2 hour prior to lineup.

Yes G, I forgot that tidbit. I think its the theobromine or phenyletheylamine that's in the chocolate that does the trick. A good tip for this young bro to be sure is to have a few raisinettes or hershey kisses in his bag. I also like to carry surgical gloves and handi-wipes for the oil messes. Good call, Gautho!

 

[Mac173]

hey todo, i also here that a chocolate hersey bar does wonders similar to the glass of red wine you speak of for bringing out vascularity. That also 1/2 hour prior to lineup. Also for your first show, leave the insulin alone get some valuable experience and use that later on down the road as an advanced technique. For what its worth, the saturday to the tuesday before the show i carb deplete, on wednesday i take in 2000 carbs, thursday 1500 carbs, and friday 500 carbs up until noon, then i take in a few proteins. I cut water at 4 pm friday until after prejudging. Then i take in a meal of my choice with a drink of water. If i don't feel certain that i'm victorious then i cut water again until after night show. Just an occasional ice chip to keep the lips from cracking. Don't forget the lip balm, the lights are brutal. Don't forget to shave, you don't want to look like you just knocked off of work.

I'm curious as to what sources of carbs you intake to reach 2000!!!

 

[holy ghost]

what mac said .

 

[gautho]

I'm curious as to what sources of carbs you intake to reach 2000!!!

oatmeal
cream of wheat
pasta
rice
sweet potatoes
brown baked potatoes
twinlab ultrafuel- plenty

 

[B-rad]

didn't paln on it the masteron and winny combined with no sodiium should do the trick.



QUOTE=noclue9415]you plan on hitting the Femera - letrozole - about two weeks out?[/QUOTE]

 

[B-rad]

im using 600mg of eq to get vascular.

Why 2.1g of Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - ?

 

[B-rad]

[Im using masteron 100 eod winy 60 ed tren 75mg ed amd test p at 150 eod along with 600 test e. its week 12 of eq so it is full thorotle, 600EQ per week

QUOTE=todoveritas]I've got one in 6 weeks, so I know how you feel. A few pearls that have helped me in the past.
1) Drop the t3st E and Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - 2-3 weeks out and switch to testosterone propionate or testosterone suspension (testosterone suspension is the secret weapon);
2) add mast 100 EOD now if you can get ahold of it...Nothing makes you harder;
3) add anavar or Winstrol - stanozolol 50 ED now as well.
4) I salt the hell out of my food and waterlog myself (2 gallon ED) until one week out then cut all NaCl and watch the water flow out (this eliminates the need for heavy diuretics); also
5) If you are going to carb deplete/load, the time to do a dry run is NOW to see if it works for you-(in about 25% of people it leaves them flat.) I would recommend 0 carbs X 2-3 days followed by 500 gms the next day and 250 gms the day after.
I do a garbage load myself (ice cream and sugar cookies) but this works on relatively few people but DAMN does it do it for me!
6) 1/2 hour to line-up, I take 1 gm niacin; 1 glass red wine and 30 mg Dianabol - methandrostenolone - and watch the veins explode.............[/QUOTE]

 

[B-rad]

[im only eating 75 g of carbs a day thinks its allright, and i allread drop the sodium.



QUOTE=gautho]400 proteins
under 150 carbs
drop enanthate at 3 weeks out
add test suspension at 3 weeks out
aldactone on hand for last prep week
avoid lasix since your a novice
consider T3 at 4 weeks out since your 23 lbs off
consult gautho for any ????'s[/QUOTE]

 

[B-rad]

[I hear it will break u out like crazy?



QUOTE=gautho]Yep, suspension is the secret weapon. Let the fools continue to think it'll leave you all bloated. A bigger secret is to stack it with halotestin the last 2 weeks. Also, don't forget about a little insulin to drive that glucose into the muscle cells the last few days when carb loading.[/QUOTE]

 

[B-rad]

i bought my posing trunks tanning aid posing oil ,been in taining bed ed,ect. i just need to figure out how to peak on august 11th for compettion.

hey todo, i also here that a chocolate hersey bar does wonders similar to the glass of red wine you speak of for bringing out vascularity. That also 1/2 hour prior to lineup. Also for your first show, leave the insulin alone get some valuable experience and use that later on down the road as an advanced technique. For what its worth, the saturday to the tuesday before the show i carb deplete, on wednesday i take in 2000 carbs, thursday 1500 carbs, and friday 500 carbs up until noon, then i take in a few proteins. I cut water at 4 pm friday until after prejudging. Then i take in a meal of my choice with a drink of water. If i don't feel certain that i'm victorious then i cut water again until after night show. Just an occasional ice chip to keep the lips from cracking. Don't forget the lip balm, the lights are brutal. Don't forget to shave, you don't want to look like you just knocked off of work.

 

[DannoMight]

go light on the oil. I made the mistake and it lost me my national qualification.

 

[B-rad]

[I increased my test E to 900 a week instead of 600 for the next couple of week I need to put a little bit more size. I will drop the test E 2 weeks out.
im using test prop currently I have access to test suspension. Do you think I should switch to that the last 2 weeks before contest instead of Test prop?




QUOTE=B-rad][Im using masteron 100 eod winy 60 ed trenbolone 75mg ed amd test p at 150 eod along with 600 testosterone enanthate. its week 12 of Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - so it is full thorotle, 600EQ per week

QUOTE=todoveritas]I've got one in 6 weeks, so I know how you feel. A few pearls that have helped me in the past.
1) Drop the t3st E and Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - 2-3 weeks out and switch to testosterone propionate or testosterone suspension (testosterone suspension is the secret weapon);
2) add mast 100 EOD now if you can get ahold of it...Nothing makes you harder;
3) add anavar or Winstrol - stanozolol 50 ED now as well.
4) I salt the hell out of my food and waterlog myself (2 gallon ED) until one week out then cut all NaCl and watch the water flow out (this eliminates the need for heavy diuretics); also
5) If you are going to carb deplete/load, the time to do a dry run is NOW to see if it works for you-(in about 25% of people it leaves them flat.) I would recommend 0 carbs X 2-3 days followed by 500 gms the next day and 250 gms the day after.
I do a garbage load myself (ice cream and sugar cookies) but this works on relatively few people but DAMN does it do it for me!
6) 1/2 hour to line-up, I take 1 gm niacin; 1 glass red wine and 30 mg Dianabol - methandrostenolone - and watch the veins explode.............[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

 

[jmead]

you said 600mg EQ EOD? i hope not

 

[todoveritas]

B-rad. Gautho and I both agree that Susp is the way to go for that last 2 weeks. You undoubtedly will have haters but trust us, beats T pro.p any day (at least for contests). Personally, I think 75 gms of carbs a day is too low. Carbs have a protein sparing effect and you will catabolize muscle to make brain food. IMO, a guy your size will need at least 150 gms. (I am cutting to 160lbs from 190 and I'm taking in 200-250 gms a day).

One other thing....Don't start tripping when you start losing a little size bc it is absolutely unavoidable. At around 8-9% bf you will start looking huge again! I've got people asking me if my arms have grown when I have actually lost a full inch in girth!

 

[LiquidPhire]

Good luck to you!

 

[Knight9]

dude....i hope you know that...more drugs isnt really gonna change a whole lot. the right ones at the right times.....in the right ratios yes...but MORE is not better. no reason to go from 600 to 900 or do as much EQ as u said(unless it was a typo-eod).
keep what you need and give the rest to a trusted friend to hold onto so the last few weeks you just dont start doubling everything.
do everything right....and you will be proud of yourself.

 

[B-rad]

you said 600mg Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - EOD? i hope not[/QUOte

I post my cycle again, sorry
EQ 600mg per week
Test E 900mg per week
Test prop 450 mg EOD
Oral Winstrol 60mg ED
Tren Ace 75 mg ED
MAsteron 100 mg EOD

Is there anything else i should add or drop is this good? ok that is my cycle not typos. I will be on my 6th week of winny, mast, prop, tren the day of of competion do you think I should be peaking around this time.been on the Test e and EQ for 12 week allready 600 and 600 mg per week.

 

[B-rad]

B-rad. Gautho and I both agree that testosterone suspension is the way to go for that last 2 weeks. You undoubtedly will have haters but trust us, beats T pro.p any day (at least for contests). Personally, I think 75 gms of carbs a day is too low. Carbs have a protein sparing effect and you will catabolize muscle to make brain food. IMO, a guy your size will need at least 150 gms. (I am cutting to 160lbs from 190 and I'm taking in 200-250 gms a day).

One other thing....Don't start tripping when you start losing a little size bc it is absolutely unavoidable. At around 8-9% bf you will start looking huge again! I've got people asking me if my arms have grown when I have actually lost a full inch in girth!

I will increase my carbs to 150 g a day I have been feeling realy weak and fatiqued.MY training intencity is still good. I puked yesterday in the gym from intence traing and caffien but i still continued to work out even though i wanted to throw the towel in and call it a day but im dedicated to this.Question at what week before comp do i drop my carbs below 150g ? I

 

[todoveritas]

Here's what I have planned the last week (no working-out):
Days 7-6: Salt liberally, 2-3 gallons H20, 200 gms CHO (broccoli+cabbage only), 2100 cal; posing x 1hour
Day 5-4: Cut salt, 2 gallons H20, Chicken/tuna only 0 CHO, 1600 cal; posing x 30 min
Day 3: No salt, drop Clenbuterol, add potassium, 30 gms creatine, 1 gallon H20, 160 gms protein/500 gms CHO, posing x 30 min
Day 2: No salt, add potassium, 3/4 gallon H20 (none after 2100), 160 gms protein/500 gms CHO, posing x 30 min
Showday: No water; 2 hours prior to line-up: 100 gms CHO + 20 gms fat + 2 gms Nacl (this is about a pint of Ben & Jerry's Heath Bar Crunch)
1/2 hour to line-up: 8 oz of salted gatorade; a few chocolate kisses; a glass of red wine; a gram of niacin and 30mg D.bol.
After morning but before night show: Anything I want for one meal, limiting fluid to one quart of Gatorade.
This protocol has never failed me and I have yet to show up flat...............

 

[B-rad]

What does CHO mean? I think I am going to follow your routine to the T see how it works for me. why don't work you work out the last week?

 

[todoveritas]

CHO = chemical notation for carbohydrates. The reason I do not work out the last week is two-fold: #1. The daily posing itself, with all the flexing and holding is a work-out by itself and I simply don't have the energy on zero carbs; #2. Over the years, I have found that the skin, during the dehydration process, kind of shrink-wraps around the muscle and I don't want to stretch it out by pumping up with blood and obscuring my cuts. This is particularly true of quads.

B-rad. I've been competing for a while and this is what works for me. I would hate for you to try to carb deplete and load for the first time at show-time. You really should do at least one dry run in case you are one of those few guys it doesn't work for. Feel free to PM me anytime for any other questions!