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PICK3 said:
That's on my tivo list. I know an alcoholic. Best friend of mine, weird how it happened. We would always party then everyone tappered off and found more fulfilling interests that held more substance. He on the otherhand still calls me around noon a couple times a week trying to get me to come up to 'his bar' for a yager bombs till we puke. Fucking unbelievable. We will be holding an intervention for him one of these days.
BigBearBob
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PICK3 said:
PICK3 said:
Two beautiful women in a row.
So sad to see them speed up and come apart before my eyes.
And lie and lie and lie about it. And steal.
fistfullofsteel
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my bestest friend who is like a brother is a hardcore alcoholic and i tried to get him to realize he has a problem but he refuses to acknowledge it. i hardly hang out with him anymore because we can't do anything without him wanting to drink.
fistfullofsteel
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PICK3 said:perhaps he'll get it together one day
it amazes me how many peeps that use heroin get addicted almost immediately.
i seriously doubt it. he says it a part of his M.O. for being a writer. he points out to guys like Scott Fitzgerald and Hemingway.
fistfullofsteel
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samoth said:Stole my response, word for word, lol.
even if we go to see a movie in the middle of an afternoon, he will want to drink beforehand. he got busted twice for DWI, but got off on lesser charges. i was hoping they'd take his license away for a long time.
plifter
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How do you define a junkie? I had a problem with pain pill addiction. It started after I had surgery and was prescribed hydrocodone. I never stole to pay for my stuff and it didn't affect my job. I had no run ins with law enforcement and I had a doctor prescribing the stuff to me. Nevertheless, I was an addict. I don't know if that is enough to put me in the "junkie" category. I got medical treatment to help me quit. It was a rough 3-4 weeks suffering through withdrawal. I still have psychological cravings for the stuff.
I really wish our society would start treating substance abuse as a medical problem instead of a law enforcement issue. The addiction is much more powerful than any police officer or judge. After my ordeal I don't look down on addicts as much. They are human beings with a problem that's too great for them to solve without help.
I really wish our society would start treating substance abuse as a medical problem instead of a law enforcement issue. The addiction is much more powerful than any police officer or judge. After my ordeal I don't look down on addicts as much. They are human beings with a problem that's too great for them to solve without help.
PICK3
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plifter said:
I wasn’t passing judgment bro, we all have our shortcomings.
I think comparing someone who becomes addicted to painkiller due to legitimate pain resulting from surgeries or illnesses is different that someone who becomes addicted from pushing the “recreational” envelope and has fair warning, but consciously still chooses to go down that path.
I don't personally - I know of, I worked with one (briefly but not brief enough) but none in my personally circle.
I don't have a lot of patience for certain types of addictions - well, most addictions - could be a character flaw in me but somewhere in the DNA I lack the sympathy gene for junkies if there is one.
I don't have a lot of patience for certain types of addictions - well, most addictions - could be a character flaw in me but somewhere in the DNA I lack the sympathy gene for junkies if there is one.
plifter said:
I don't personally categorize that as the same thing.
But now that you've said that I can totally see how easy it would be to confused situations and how they came about.
I think of a junkie/addict as some who has the intent to "feel good" or "escape" on a daily basis and they don't care who they have steal, lie to or hurt to get their fix. They are completely self absorbed with themselves and how they need to feel and they've lost all logical reasoning beyond "getting high"
Maybe I need to find a different name to categorize these people.
GoldenDelicious
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i know people addicted to everything bar cocaine (only cos there is relatively little cocaine in australia)
lets seeeeee....
...guys that drink a carton of beer everyday at work (construction)? yep
...people that binge drink every weekend madly, have been doing so for years, and measure the success of their weekend by saying how paraletic they got? yep
...people who are endlessly on ecstasy pills, and cant really socialise without them, prostituting to dealers to get them? yep
...people who think marijuana is a food group, and keep using despite various psych problems, dragging their family with them to hell cos they have massive paranoia? yep
...people tweaking off their heads all the time and who do many many unscrupulous things to get $ to pay for their habit? yep
...roiders who refuse to leave the house on a saturday night unless their arms are bigger than 18" or whatever foolish goal the nominated for themselves? yep
...people on heroin who prostitute themselves and then go splat all weekend? yep
...people taht have been on methadone for the past 11 years and pop in for their fix before they go home and toke or whatever? yep
you name it, ive seen it.
personally, im at huge risk. i party that much, im not sure i can give it up.
funny thing about addiction is that you dont know you are until you try give up
lets seeeeee....
...guys that drink a carton of beer everyday at work (construction)? yep
...people that binge drink every weekend madly, have been doing so for years, and measure the success of their weekend by saying how paraletic they got? yep
...people who are endlessly on ecstasy pills, and cant really socialise without them, prostituting to dealers to get them? yep
...people who think marijuana is a food group, and keep using despite various psych problems, dragging their family with them to hell cos they have massive paranoia? yep
...people tweaking off their heads all the time and who do many many unscrupulous things to get $ to pay for their habit? yep
...roiders who refuse to leave the house on a saturday night unless their arms are bigger than 18" or whatever foolish goal the nominated for themselves? yep
...people on heroin who prostitute themselves and then go splat all weekend? yep
...people taht have been on methadone for the past 11 years and pop in for their fix before they go home and toke or whatever? yep
you name it, ive seen it.
personally, im at huge risk. i party that much, im not sure i can give it up.
funny thing about addiction is that you dont know you are until you try give up
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heatherrae
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Yep, it's impossible to be around a hardcore alcoholic. The alcoholic I used to know would get crazy, mean and jealous when he drank. Talk about some fun nights out on the town!fistfullofsteel said:
DannoMight
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Unfortunately yes, a mamber of my family was/is addicted to oxycontin or heroin along with his supposedly gf. They showed up late saturday to our cousins reception the his girl only stayed for a few minutes after dinner and they both "went to the bathroom" for about a half hour but she didn't come back in. My cousin said her back was really hurting and she needed to lay down. So I offered to go with him and check on her but he was very evasive on letting anyone go out to see and help out. She was supposedly in a bad car accident a few years ago and her back is messed up but I've seen her dance and jump around for hrs at a time. They just keep telling lie after lie.
javaguru
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He would still drink and drive, license or not. That's the problem with addiction, it overrules all common sense. I dated a woman who claimed to have a $60.00 a week coke habit, based on her income and financial problems it was probably double to triple that. Broke up with her soon after I found out, it wouldn't have lasted much longer either way.fistfullofsteel said:
jnevin
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Let's see, I have three friends that are cocaine addicts, one of them is a junkie. He's lost everything, his long time GF, one of his cars, one of his homes, multiple jobs, and has been arrested for possession a number of times in the last few months. He's waiting to be sentenced. The other two are functional, but I can't stand to be around them.
I have an issue with booze. I'd binge drink when I'd go out, and would drink every day. I wouldn't get wasted, but would definitely not be sober. I could probably count on one hand the number of days I wouldn't drink in a year over the last few years. I went 8 months without drinking anything, had a few last weekend and didn't have any fun with it. It's tough though, I could see myself slipping back into the habit of daily drinking again. It keeps me numb.
I have an issue with booze. I'd binge drink when I'd go out, and would drink every day. I wouldn't get wasted, but would definitely not be sober. I could probably count on one hand the number of days I wouldn't drink in a year over the last few years. I went 8 months without drinking anything, had a few last weekend and didn't have any fun with it. It's tough though, I could see myself slipping back into the habit of daily drinking again. It keeps me numb.
fistfullofsteel
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SublimeZM said:
because it's going to kill his liver and it can be dangerous especially if he is driving. nobody wants to be around somebody who is always drinking. work at a club for awhile and sooner or later you want to smack the shit out of people.
DannoMight
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My aunt used to have this guy living with her who was a bad alcoholic. He would have pints of blackberry brandy hidden between the couch cushions and had a cold 18 pack of high life on the table and would drink it all before it was warm. His name was Wade but I called him Swade cause he would stagger and sway after 12 beers and a pint. We got him to do some bong hits once out of my 3ft Jerry Bear bong.
Tiervexx
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velvett said:
There is a world of diffrence between meeting a junkie, and meeting a beautiful person who then degenerates.
But I stopped feeling sorry for my friend after a while. It was still her fault after all. She was raised in a good situation but went WAY the hell out of her way to ruin it.
Then again...I guess it is the same thing in the end.
seaking420
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So true
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Phaded
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they can't control their addiction..
Tiervexx
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Generally I don't bump old, old threads but I feel the need to update because this isn't quite true. I got back in touch with the friend I spoke of on this thread and we're closer than ever. Once she decided that harder drugs where not worth it, she basically just stopped and has been clean for 21 months without any nutty 12 step programs or whatever.
Her motor control and speech is damaged but over email she comes off as totally normal and as shape as ever. She also still looks very youthful and healthy even though her movement is awkward.
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lartinos
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I know two addicts, one the stripper I was seeing early in the summer who is totally clean now.
The second is my long time friend who is a straight up junkie, but has some money so gets by. I saw him go through serious cocaine pyschosis the other night though. Not sure how long he will last on the streets acting like that.
The second is my long time friend who is a straight up junkie, but has some money so gets by. I saw him go through serious cocaine pyschosis the other night though. Not sure how long he will last on the streets acting like that.
I dont Judge Personal Drug Use ever I show compassion to those who are in use.
I am this way Frankly because Life can Suck and REALLY REALY be bad sometimes..................... especially for the delicate hearts of this world who get hadned nothing but rotten flowers over and over again.
......sometimes the only way to blunt the hardships of life is an escape...........
I am this way Frankly because Life can Suck and REALLY REALY be bad sometimes..................... especially for the delicate hearts of this world who get hadned nothing but rotten flowers over and over again.
......sometimes the only way to blunt the hardships of life is an escape...........
repost!~
Smurf is a dick junkie...just sayin'
You two share similar interests, how nice.
pwned!
Tiervexx
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I definatly agree. I'm totally sober so I know how much it can suck to always have your head about you.
What I really hate are drinkers who think they are so much better then people with other drug choices.
bw1
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We know bro
chris302001
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omg
llololol @ you two and omg!
walliwalibus
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Damn I didn't even finish thread after I read this. So, you think people (junkies you say) are either stupid with their choices, or a person who had surgery and just hooked on the pills from that correct? Damn that is shallow bro..... WTF? I guess you really never thought of emotional or mental issues when typing that, which you seem to go through a lot yourself. Did you yourself quit drinking 8 or 9 moths ago, but now are back to it, or are your threads bullshit. Sounds to me like the junkie is in you my friend. Ever consider help? Don't deny it bro.... identify it within. Step one. Also, crack is one hit and you doing it again. Heroin sux balls. Puke and puke, no thanks. Maybe you should be careful with your wording a little, that really made you look like an asshole.
jnevin
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Wow.
walliwalibus
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What is with the people saying all users steal. That's wrong. I myself am an addict. Once you are, you are. So the fuck what. I don't steal, and I don't use anymore. But I am still an addict. Wow, this thread really made me think twice about some people here. Shallow, and uneducated. Come on folks. Your at a illegal substance board, and your downing junkies. I believe there are plenty of junkies at this site who are in denial. Take the first step. I won't point out any names, but I personally know of three hardcore junkies on this site. For I don't talk with many people here.
jnevin
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I just think that's the experience a lot of people had when they first found out how bad some peoples' problems are. I'm pretty sure for every addict that steals from their grandmother there are 10 that are reasonably functional that are able to hide their habit. It just hits home more when it's a friend or family menber that lies to and steals from you to fuel their habit. It makes it personal and easier to pass judgment.
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shrimp poboy
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Another pick3 thread in the shitter
I have known many. My brother was an alcoholic and eventually killed himself. A good life long friend od'd a few years back off herion. My ex who was a member here(jade19) got so bad into meth that I had to kick her out and haven't heard from her in years. Don't even know if she's alive. A girl i was recently seeing was an alcoholic and was on methodone due to an opiate addiction. She is in treatment for 90 days now. We talk often and she seems to be doing great and is happy. I hope she makes it once she gets back. I have many friends that are drunks, and I try not to hang around them to often. I could go on and on.
walliwalibus
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Thanks bro.... I had to leave for a bit as I just couldn't believe what I read....
My apologies to pick3, even though I know you probably could give a sheot or read what I posted. Bumping old threads sucks. What does it accomplish? Nothing. That is the second one today. If it was that good of a thread wouldn't it have been sticky? Just sayin'...
Discuss, and Pick3 gonna slam me but that is OK as I deserve.
Have at it.
Grumpy Old Man
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Yeah he died. Was sitting in his crate and died with his needle still stuck in his arm. I guess he got a hot shot from his dealer.
walliwalibus
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Pretty sad. IMHO
SO the girl I mentioned earlier texted me lastnight saying she was coming home. She says they think she was using and are cutting off her meds and sending her home without a drug test. Says she's gonna sue them. Fuckin typical. She's never responsible for anything. They found a needle in her room shortly after she got there and she claimed someone else was in her room. She says she wouldn't even know where to get it if she wanted to get high. Fuckin bullshit. She's gonna come back here and be worse than she was before she left in a week. Very sad.
Chrisco915
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I too am in recovery and have been labeled an addict. Do I feel like one? No. Do I look like one? No. Do I get treated like one after I tell people? Yes.
I have a good job. I have a good family. I respect myself and the people I inetract with. I am in better shape than I can recall in the last 20 years. I have a degree. I have been in the Army. If we talked face to face you would never have a clue I was a crack addict. The stigma and consistant mis-information makes it hard for people to admit out loud they have issues. We all struggle inside with this issue(those that have it) and then we have to deal with the chastizing from society too? Backs turned, doors closed, relationships severed. It is no wonder addicts turn inward and don't ask for help....so few are willing to give it. The fact it says "junkie" in the title shows a lack of understanding and respect for the individual inflicted with this issue. It isn't a joyride, a walk in the park, a helluva good time. It is hell on earth.
Being an addict doesn't make someone and automatic dirt bag, loser, low life, waste of oxygen, criminal. They are still people. People you may be interacting everyday with and not even now.
calveless wonder
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coke whores
walliwalibus
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Pole puffer.... LOL you beotch.
txbondsman
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exactly, but it does make them a sick person. Come on over to the group section, we'll discuss it further, anyone who wants to.
wills_got_rythm
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Addicts come from all walks of life, rich, poor, middle class whatever....the drug doesnt care who you are.
The whole problem is that addicts, 1. cant say no. 2. think that they are the only ones in the world with the problems they have. 3. cant deal with their problems in the way that "normal people" do.
wills_got_rythm
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I had a problem with drinking for a while, and for me the alcohol did not replace my problems or "temporarily cure" them.
I finally realised that I cant do anything drunk or hungover all the time and I learned how to controll it I still drink a little but nothing like I did when I felt sorry for myself....
I finally realised that I cant do anything drunk or hungover all the time and I learned how to controll it I still drink a little but nothing like I did when I felt sorry for myself....
walliwalibus
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Can't say no I agree
#2=bullsheot
#3=by normal people do you mean the cigarette smokers, the legal drinkers, people who eat too much, people who starve themselves, people who have affairs (LOL), people who are greedy (that is a addiction), shall I keep going, because bro..... everyone has their issues. Look where you are posting this at. My my, ok so uh, have you seen the poll on people here who say they addicted? You are among many addicts. Once an addict, always one. I am a addict, but your wrong as I do say no.
So I take back #1 as bullsheot too, as it is BULLSHEOT.
Discuss........
BTW hey TXBONDSMAN!!!!!! Best advice, go and hit up the group and discuss among those addicted and see how many have already said no and enough is enough. But your always an addict.......
Thx for tuning in everybody, please visit the New Beginnings group and lets type it out. Peep's in there are very cool.
txbondsman
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absolutely correct, it's soccer moms, DR's/ nurses, trash collectors, every single person who walks the earth, they can be an addict, and I have seen all of those at one time or another.
wmj, there is a BIG difference from not being able to say no, to the compulsion to drink/ take a drugs. HUGE difference. The addict certainly has the willpower to say no, but the comulsion overpowers that will. They simply cannot stop. I use the analogy of breathing to describe, compulsion. If you hold your breath, after a while you will want to take a breath, a little longer and you'll be consumed with taking a breath, then shortly thereafter, you have to breath. It's JUST that powerful. That is different from the person who just says, fuck it, I'll do it anyway, I want to stop but I'll do it later. He could stop if he so chose.
yes, and no. Most are intelligent people who know that they aren't the only ones to go through child custody/ divorce battles, job loss, death in family, etc. Most know that the family problems that they grew up with aren't unique, but they do react differently to them than people who do not use alcohol/ drugs to manage the mental pain, saddness, or anger. So, no they do not think that their the only ones in most cases, but they are clueless as to how to react to the problem. I often said that I wish at birth, they included a "how to react" manuel for life, that would have saved me untold hours of misery.
true, I addressed that in #2 above. "Normal people" don't run out and buy a 1/2 gallon of liquor and drink the whole thing at one sitting, they don't go spend every last dime that they can get their hands on to buy rock, they don't sneak in and out of other peoples houses to steal meds that they know they have. The lengths an addict will go are vast, what ever it takes, that's how far you will go. "Normal people" don't do that. You are correct.
There is a paragraph in the AA Big Book that deals with this exact thing, I may have posted it before, but I'll do it again, it's worth reading. If you want to see it, come over to the group site, it's an open group for anyone who would like to come.
WMJ, thanks for you post, I wish no confrentation, it's just how I see it, you are certainly entitled to your own oppinions, and I accept that. Again, thanks for your post, we invite all discussions.
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txbondsman
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LOL, Walli, it's cool Bro. There isn't an exact answer in most cases. Thanks for thinking of our group, you are a big part and I'm glad you feel that there is help over there for those who are in need. We have hundreds of years of sobreity to use, hopefully people who need help or questions answered will visit.
txbondsman
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meh, I have to go for about an hour, it's 11:30 cst, if you want to see the post I am going to write about "reacting normally", check back, I'll post it up asap. thanks.....
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