Cycle for this year - Deca/Tren & Dbol/Win....

[mpg1]

Hi Guys -

Right so very controversial - but should be good for discussion (I hope)... and in the end hoping for decent advice - completely open to any positive criticism (so if you think it’s crap just please let me know why)… J

A bit about me:
- Been training for years, cycle once maybe twice a year with the stuff (have been through 6 – and used all compounds below except Winstrol)
- Enjoy training for the sake of keeping fit and for the health factor;
- Goals are to make steady increases in terms of decent lean gains
- Weigh: 65kg; BF: 13%; 1.67m Tall; 31 years young

My “planned” cycle (could change with any good advice J):
Weeks 1 – 13
- 40mg Dbol : Week 1 - 4 ea day
- 500mg test cyp : Week 1 - 11 every 4 days
- 100mg deca : week 1 - 8 every 4 days
- 50mg win : week 8 - 13 ea day
- 75mg tren a : Week 9 - 13 every other day
- 0.25mg Arimidex : week 1 - 13 every other day

Weeks 15 - 19
- 40mg Nolvadex : Week 14 ea day
- 20mg Nolvadex : week 15 - 16 ea day
- 10mg Nolvadex : week 17 ea day
- 100mg Clomid : Week 14 ea day
- 50mg Clomid : week 15 - 16 ea day
- 25mg Clomid : week 17 ea day

Facts:
- I “know” deca/tren combination is tricky/controversial – but did a ton of research – so curious to know what you all think
- Have intentionally been very conservative with doses
- Have intentionally kept cycle short (and sweet I hope J)
- Might do more one more cycle this year – but not more

Concerns
- Dosages simply too low!
- Effects of Win and Tren on Cardio
- Insomnia
- Libido (Do I really need to take the Armidex?)
o So yes aware of the above problems and going into it as such – of course any advice to limit these issues would be greatly appreciated! J


Thanks in advance for all the replies and above all for all the help!

 

[obsessedwliftin]

I personally do not like the combination of the Deca and Tren. For me it is an either or IMO. Also if I was going to attempt to do so I would have some Caber or Dostinex on hand for progesterone/prolactin sides. Also when running either Tren or Deca I would never run Nolva. These can increase the side effects of progesterone. Your PCT of clomid and Nolva is also outdated and not the most effective IMO. I would recommend a clomid low dose kickstart with Unleashed and Post Cycle combo. I love to run tren cycles and this PCT has proven effective for me time after time. Hope some of this helps bro and good luck with your decision.

 

[mpg1]

Ahoi Obsessedwliftin - Man thanks for the swift reply!

So yeah - "Completely" respect your view on Dec/Tren combo - hence the controversy...

As for your suggestions - Thanks... and well fact is: Dammit forgot this from the my cycle doc I copied from:
Have handy:
- 0.5mg Caber : every third day if needed


But fact is - thanks for that... completely agree and will take that advice!!

Thanks again for the inpute - seriously appreciate it!

 

[mpg1]

Hey Obsessedwliftin... Clicked post too soon.. Also wanna say - thanks for PCT recommendations - Hear you about the outdated bit (just been told it simply works) - so Will DEFINITELY look into your advice, and probably nag you again if that's cool!

And thanks for the good luck bit! Gonna need it!

 

[obsessedwliftin]

Ahoi Obsessedwliftin - Man thanks for the swift reply!

So yeah - "Completely" respect your view on Dec/Tren combo - hence the controversy...

As for your suggestions - Thanks... and well fact is: Dammit forgot this from the my cycle doc I copied from:
Have handy:
- 0.5mg Caber : every third day if needed


But fact is - thanks for that... completely agree and will take that advice!!

Thanks again for the inpute - seriously appreciate it!

Good bro. Glad to see the Caber in there. Please let us know what you decide, and think about logging your cycle here, as members can learn from your experiences.

 

[mpg1]

Yeah I intend on logging my cycle... would like to share experience/results with others - think it would help me and others... And yeah before I do will let you all know what i decide!