Cycle and diet study - who would do it?

[st8grad]

Ok, this is just an idea. I'm not a scientist/research/expert and don't think I am anywhere close to any of those titles.

We still have a huge debate on the premise of certain diets. Basically we fall into two camps. Low fat or low carb with the definitions of the two varying widely.

What if we could come up with two groups on the EF board that would follow one plan or the other. Maybe 10 guys in each group.

Both groups would follow the exact same lifting plan, cycle, supplements, and strive for roughly the same amount of sleep. Whatever we can control I guess.

The would both have the same blood work done before and after.

Group 1 would follow a bulker using whatever we all can decide is common practice. That is a generally accepted macro split based on calories. Falling somewhere near the high carb school.

Group 2 would follow a high fat/low carb diet. Under 50gs per day, protein at 1.5-2g per lb and fat making up the rest based on calories.

We could track energy levels, growth, strength, weight can, fat %, blood profiles, etc.

Clearly this wouldn't be overseen by EF. This would be run by someone much more competent than me and the variables and details would have to be worked out much deeper than my thoughts above.

I am curious to see what kind of results could be generated from both.

 

[GUARDIAN]

would gear, supps, etc be provided?

 

[centy]

I'd volunteer for a study like that. If conducted in a 'scientific' manner, the results could be very interesting and maybe quite helpful.

 

[wzkid]

Very interesting, I would love to see the results.

 

[ironcheif1984]

would gear, supps, etc be provided?

LMAO that would be nice huh.

 

[footballstud]

would gear, supps, etc be provided?

Do this, and I'm in! Hell, I'll pay for my own food and blood work.

 

[TM248]

In the name of science, I'm in! ha

 

[bigoldbadassbob]

is there a controlled junk food,tv,and vidio game group???? ohhh oh ohh and beer 2.. mmmm hot wings and pizza... im getting carried away now!!!!!

 

[Donnie Darko]

a study like this would require more than just 10 guys for each diet/supplement study. There would have to be at least a control group and a study group to match against the control group. Also, it would be a highly subjective study based upon diet which each would have to abide by, supplementation, exercise routines, etc... would all have to be done as equally as possible for everyone. For the diet, a control group could do any diet they want which would really skew the results in favor of a very well controlled diet group. Depending upon the scope of the studies, the people involved could cover dozens to 100's of people in every aspect and each of these people would need to be personally monitored (not internet monitored based upon their own word).

 

[st8grad]

a study like this would require more than just 10 guys for each diet/supplement study. There would have to be at least a control group and a study group to match against the control group. Also, it would be a highly subjective study based upon diet which each would have to abide by, supplementation, exercise routines, etc... would all have to be done as equally as possible for everyone. For the diet, a control group could do any diet they want which would really skew the results in favor of a very well controlled diet group. Depending upon the scope of the studies, the people involved could cover dozens to 100's of people in every aspect and each of these people would need to be personally monitored (not internet monitored based upon their own word).

This is all very true. Compliance is very hard to monitor. The results at the end wouldn't hold up based on science, but more so as a loose experiment that may help some people decide on a protocol that they may want to follow based on their goals.

Maybe calling it a study defines it wrong. So maybe it would be a competition. But the overall objective is to gauge not only results but how each person felt on the diet and cycle and look at internal measurements like lipid profile etc.

I'm getting over nasty gastroenteritis so I don't have any energy to push this along right now.

Even if some guys are willing to try it even for the sake of change (which sometimes is exactly what the body needs), it would be interesting to see what might come of it.