BF Goals and Time Frames

[*MissFit*]

panache - its a mind over matter thing you have conditioned your mind to think that way... get out of the mode..

Cardio is not the way to be fit.. i do 20 minutes 3 times a week.. sometimes 4

 

[Ulter]

If you're losing LBM from cardio then you aren't taking in enough carbs thus forcing your body to use your muscle as protein to convert into "carbs" OR you're trying to do weight training with depleted glycogen stores.
Do your heavy cardio on non weight training days and you should be fine. Assuming your diet is ok.

 

[*Bunny*]

Bunny,
how do I know if I'm doing too much cardio..
Trying tokeep the diet as clean as poss. but doing cardio every morning alternating with high intensity or interval running/biking.

I just don't feel right if I don't do cardio at least 5 times a week. I need to getmy hear rate up. I guess I've never done this kind of training before where the focus is on short cardio sessions with more weight training.

even if i do a high intensity/interval workout but only for half an hour, my heart rate doesn't get that high.

If my diet is good,(trying to eat 5 small meals a day), doign cardio first thing in the am. doing weights 4 evenings a week, how does cardio hinder the BF loss process?

Thanks for your responses!

I have no objections with doing cardio daily if you are eating enough to sustain that kind of work. I do cardio often and for me it is such a great sanity/stress reliever. When I'm reading or studying, I'll usually do so on the step mill and look up and *poof* it's an hour later. This is probably because I can't sit still. Do others think it's too much? Sure. Do I really care? No.

I think alot of your questions relate to your goals... what are they? What are you trying to accomplish? Is fat loss primary? Going to run a marathon? Is Fat Loss your #1 goal ? Cardiovascular endurance? Add Muscle?

 

[superqt4u2nv]

panache - its a mind over matter thing you have conditioned your mind to think that way... get out of the mode..

Cardio is not the way to be fit.. i do 20 minutes 3 times a week.. sometimes 4

But you have an over active thyroid and have admited that your diet is no were near clean.
EVERYONE is diffrent with regards to cardio diet and training some need more then others. That is an indivual thing you need to find out on you own.

 

[panache]

Hi,
thanks for your replies.

My goals are fat loss and muscle definition, but at the same time, I need to do aerobic/anaerobic exercise to feel fit rather than just 'look' fit.

I do want to get back into the running shape I was 5/6 years ago, but I understand I can't train for a marathon and weight training at the same time.

If I didn't do any exercise, I'd look like an elephant.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, just curious how you see lots of cardio training, when a lot of people on this board seem to do a minimum.. Its just something I haven't been exposed to before.

 

[Ulter]

Now you're getting the picture in focus. There is no one way. That's why you're reading different responses. You need to try a couple of different methods and see what fits your genetics. Find what works for YOU first.

Don't look at what Bunny does and say oh that is what will work for me. Keep in mind that she's an exceptional athlete. There are a lot of women who are very good at training for fat loss and the ultimate body, but Bunny is the Michael Jordan of these athletes and you shouldn't try to compare what she does to what you do until you reach that level.

 

[panache]

OK,
I guess i've only really tried one method, thats when I was doing a lot of cardio, running . I was small, 5'1 and about 106 pounds, but I still didn't have as low bodyfat ( no viewable abs!) as I wanted.

That method was still good as in I looked slim, but I want to get back to that size and have more muscle, so this time I want to add more weight training into the regime.

I guess i can't put a timefrime on it, because every situation is different..

 

[Miss24k]

What Ulter said!

We're all different, and different things work for which people (different body types).

For example myself, when I'm on my off-season, I do absolutely no cardio. When I start cutting I start introducing cardio very lightly, I start with 10 minutes then 15, 20, 25, 30, 3 times a week, then 4, 5, 6. So my max. amount of cardio is 6 times a week for 30 minutes. I have done the occasional 45 minutes for that's very rare.

This is what works for me, I know quite a few ladies that need to do 1 to 2 hours of cardio everyday to get lean enough to compete.

 

[panache]

Yea thats just it, figuring what works for me!

 

[The Shadow]

Please don't go making these grand statments for some YES that is enough but not for EVERYONE.

Excuse me??


Maybe you missed my previous post:

the average is closer to 1.5% for those who were on the Shadow Plan - and this was over 6+ weeks

So....the "grand statement" as you call it was perfectly predicated by my previous statement.


HIIT cardio , in general, will burn bodyweight divided by 10-11 in total cals per MINUTE.


So..if you weight say 150.....you are burning 13 per minute....for 40 minutes = 520 cals per session.

That yields over 1500 cals per week - or a half pound of fat...not including cals burned DURING the weights nor the fat loss from the det itself.


Ive been training for more than a decade......and I can say that 40 minutes of HIIT cardio 3x per week with a tight diet will melt fat faster than you could possiby imagine....add in the sups recommended, and you cant HELP but lose fat.


There is NO DIFFERENCE from a therodynamic standppoint of consuming 10,000 cals per week and then burning off 5000 via exercise and consuming 7500 cals per week and burning 2500 off.


All other things being equal, cals in vs cals out dictate fat loss(or gain).


So - you can call it a "grand statement" all you like - it doesnt mean I am wrong.




...and folks wonder why I dont frequent this forum like I used to.....