BB's health when they retire?

[riverrock]

Its not talk mate, saw him myself once, still looked a big guy (to me) but nowhere near his former self of course. And ive done enough E's in my past to know when someone is on one.

tbh EVERY person i know that takes, or has taken roids has also dabbled in E, coke etc. Seem to go hand in hand.

Well, I think there's plenty of irresponsible guys out there, no question. I also know of plenty of guys who got into BB to look good on a Saturday night, they they took AAS to push it out further, then thats not enough either, so they started taking E's to push it out further again.

Its important to stress that these guys are not to be confusd with the majority who are very dedicated and responsible when taking juice, but I agree with you that there's a worryingly sizeable minority (certainly here in The UK anyhow) who take more than just Sustanon. It seems to be mainly guys in their early 20's too.

 

[dr0832]

I hope your refering to Ronnie Colman and the rest of these reckless drug abusing monsters. These guys I truely believe have fucked up their chances at ever leading a heathly life. Theres no way you can abuse all these drugs and then decide to quit and think your not going to run into serious consequences down the road. I know many of you competitive bodybuilders would like to think otherwise and deny the truth, but unfortunately abusing drugs like most bodybuilders do, is a very bad thing. All these bodybuilders say they lead a healthy life but taking supersychological levels of steroids, gh, igf, insulin, directics, sleep meds, pain killers, fat loss drugs, and the whole mess of other shit, IS NOT LIVING A HEATHLY LIFESTYLE! Sorry to have to say it, but its the truth. Shrinking back to 200lbs is the least of their worries.

 

[nishnish]

I hope your refering to Ronnie Colman and the rest of these reckless drug abusing monsters. These guys I truely believe have fucked up their chances at ever leading a heathly life. Theres no way you can abuse all these drugs and then decide to quit and think your not going to run into serious consequences down the road. I know many of you competitive bodybuilders would like to think otherwise and deny the truth, but unfortunately abusing drugs like most bodybuilders do, is a very bad thing. All these bodybuilders say they lead a healthy life but taking supersychological levels of steroids, gh, igf, insulin, directics, sleep meds, pain killers, fat loss drugs, and the whole mess of other shit, IS NOT LIVING A HEATHLY LIFESTYLE! Sorry to have to say it, but its the truth. Shrinking back to 200lbs is the least of their worries.

i don't think you are going to find too many people who will disagree with you.

i would also have to say that most of the guys who ae in the big leagues (in terms of drug intake- this would include not only professionals and thos eat other competitive levels, but also some of the members of this board who have never competed at all) have accepted the risks and calculated that it is worth it. this may be a bad road to take, as you probably can't really appreciate your health until it is taken away from you.

competitive bodybuilding has nothing to do with health whatsoever- eating clean and getting plenty of sleep and cardio is inconsequential when you are administering supraphysiological amounts of drugs.

if you look at some of these guys in the offseason you can really see that they are not healthy individuals. big black circles around the eyes, discolored whites of the eyes, and red, bloated faces are clues that things aren't quite up to par internally.

i just don't think they care really. it's funny what the competitive side of bodybuilding does to you; how you can brush aside blatant signs of poor health in favor of getting huge and ripped. this is coming from my own personal experience as a heavy user in my 20's, albeit without insulin or hgh.

i know that when i first cleaned out 5 years ago i went through a very rough period; so bad that i turned to hard drugs to help me cope. i would imagine it took a good three years for my bloodwork to come back normal. i doubt things will ever go back to normal for the top shelf (and lower eschelons) of pro bodybuilders- HRT and treatment for diabetes are probably in order for the rest of their lives.

 

[silverbackn]

Genetics play a bigger role than does reasonable or even moderately high steroid usage.

 

[RvN]

i don't think you are going to find too many people who will disagree with you.

i would also have to say that most of the guys who ae in the big leagues (in terms of drug intake- this would include not only professionals and thos eat other competitive levels, but also some of the members of this board who have never competed at all) have accepted the risks and calculated that it is worth it. this may be a bad road to take, as you probably can't really appreciate your health until it is taken away from you.

competitive bodybuilding has nothing to do with health whatsoever- eating clean and getting plenty of sleep and cardio is inconsequential when you are administering supraphysiological amounts of drugs.

if you look at some of these guys in the offseason you can really see that they are not healthy individuals. big black circles around the eyes, discolored whites of the eyes, and red, bloated faces are clues that things aren't quite up to par internally.

i just don't think they care really. it's funny what the competitive side of bodybuilding does to you; how you can brush aside blatant signs of poor health in favor of getting huge and ripped. this is coming from my own personal experience as a heavy user in my 20's, albeit without insulin or hgh.

i know that when i first cleaned out 5 years ago i went through a very rough period; so bad that i turned to hard drugs to help me cope. i would imagine it took a good three years for my bloodwork to come back normal. i doubt things will ever go back to normal for the top shelf (and lower eschelons) of pro bodybuilders- HRT and treatment for diabetes are probably in order for the rest of their lives.

Brilliant post mate!, especially this bit-

"you probably can't really appreciate your health until it is taken away from you"

So very, very true.

Many years back i fainted from high blood pressure (was taking 6x40mg Andriol tabs a day (after reading the advice of a certain UK steroid 'guru' - i was doing fine on 4 originally, serves me right i guess for being dumb/greedy) and had major panic attacks for months after it, whites of my eyes were yellow in the corners, and i felt sick from my throat to my stomach for ages, my pee was cloudy as fuck, i defo thought id damaged my liver, and i seriously thought i was gonna die, that kinda experience sure put things into perspective for me.

( I had a bloodtest done and the results came back fine, apart from high blood pressure of course)




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[ilpadrone]

Last time I saw Yates it was at my gym here in Amsterdam, a few years back,
but years after his last olympic competition. (4-5 years ago is my best guess).
He was training shoulders. He had a big wide shirt on, with his sleeves wrapped
up above his forearms. I could see he still had huge traps under his shirt. And
those forearms where popeye like too. I was already done so I just saw him
doing 2 sets of side raises with 30kgs (66lbs dumbells).. that was enough for me
He didn't look small at all, but maybe that's b/c I was so tiny compared to him
back then hahaha

 

[Khalnayak]

markus ruhl smokes.its a known fact that smoking causes cancer.he also uses tons of growth hormone and GH causes cells to grow whether its muscle cells or cancer cells.So,smoking+GH=SUICIDE.Markus Ruhl is a great bodybuilder and i hope he realises that life is more valuable than being a huge monster.

 

[ilpadrone]

markus ruhl smokes.its a known fact that smoking causes cancer.he also uses tons of growth hormone and GH causes cells to grow whether its muscle cells or cancer cells.So,smoking+GH=SUICIDE.Markus Ruhl is a great bodybuilder and i hope he realises that life is more valuable than being a huge monster.

You think he is different then other users like most of us? Don't think so. So many are experimenting on theirselves and thus playing with their health and lives..
By the way GH --> IGF-1 in the body by the liver. The latter one is indeed
able to increase size and number of any cell in the body. Not GH.
Furthermore, DHT (dihydrotestosterone) variants such as winstrol for
instance, can cause the prostate to enlarge..which you don't want either.
Testosterone also gets turned into DHT easily in the body. One of the first
things BB-ers learn is what this powerful hormone can do to your hair on your
head. No-one wants to get bald b/c of DHT or have a big lumpy prostate. So
that means no one should take testo variants or dht variants.. If you want to
be more free of risk, just don't use any AS at all.. I think there are lots of
people taking drugs without really realizing what those hormones do besides
making you bigger.. Lucky us we got this forums now to learn from.

I think competitive bodybuilding is a killer. Is that all worth it in the long run?
Don't think so. So many pro's out there with serious or less serious health problems. I prefer being less of a monster, but healthy. I stopped competing
right after my first victory. Don't you agree Markus Ruhl is, even if he would stop smoking, still at danger b/c of all the shit he takes.

 

[dali]

Don't give a rat's ass what other people think is "not healthy" or "abusing".

Do what makes YOU happy, you only go around once.

 

[silverbackn]

Don't give a rat's ass what other people think is "not healthy" or "abusing".

Do what makes YOU happy, you only go around once.

This is a somewhat haphazard line of thinking, I believe it is true to an extent though. You just have to decide what your priorities are.