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Barbell curl weight?

I did 140 pounds on my 5x5 straight bar curls tuesday, and that was damn tough. I don't know what my 1rm would be maybe 155? My biggest problem now with that weight is that my right wrist starts to hurt like hell and my right elbow gets sore also. Basically I start to fall apart from the effort, but the bi's seem to have endless strength, my one genetic gift bi's and back.
 
This is what I did today for my Bi's

EZ bar Preacher Curls all/ 1 minute rests

65 lbs x 12

75 x 10

85 x 8

95 x 3

35 x 12

it was a focus on tri day, day :)
 
Baoh said:
The weights listed here are pretty common, but I wonder how the form used with them is. Of course, most will immediately say their form is perfect. lol

Out of my 5 reps the 1st 3 were very strict, rep 4 had the elbows out a little and rep 5 definitely had some body leaning and flared elbows.
 
im not saying on every single rep, but biceps is definitely an exercise that u can cheat on--im talking about having strict form throughout the set, and banging out the last several on a little less then perfect i.e. swinging a little--no matter how perfect anyone thinks their form is, try curling against a wall, and i promise it'll be lighter
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
Hmmm...ok I must be a freak. My arms are my worst feature (only 18"...grrr), but I train the hell out of them to keep them even close to caught up with the rest of my body. I can do 155 for 6 pretty strict preacher curls. I do half reps with 205. Its the same on tri's. I do 365 on close grip presses if I touch my chest, and 1/4 reps in the rack with 545. What's really messed up is, I've had 2 other bodybuilders tell me I should work on my arms a little more! It's like, wtf do you want me to do dumbell curls with 150's?

Err...YEAH. You ARE a freak! :)

Those are incredible preacher curls. Mentzer once told me that he and Ray rarely went over about 150 lbs. for reps.

I'd also have to say 365 CGBPs are pretty damn nice. Just moving that kind of weight without bitching of wrist pain deserves a bow of respect :)

You must be quite big overall and lean to have people telling you 18" arms aren't enough.

For your strength, though, I am a bit surprised that you're not toting closer to 19"-19.5" arms or so...do you have very small joints? Could you be overtraining?
 
Baoh said:
The weights listed here are pretty common, but I wonder how the form used with them is. Of course, most will immediately say their form is perfect. lol

That's the thing. My form is perfect. I make damn sure that, if I'm going to be using somewhat wimpy poundages, I'm at least going to do them *right*.

I like to stand with my back against a wall such that I don't bob and weave the way most guys do when they're curling 65 lbs. I don't keep my elbows glued to the wall, but the meat of my triceps stays there. Each negative is 6-8 seconds. Positives are done as "explosively" as possible, but each rep begins from a dead stop--not a rest at the bottom, but a deceleration of the negative to the point that the bar isn't moving when it touches my thighs.

On a final rep, I might step out from the wall and lean back a little if the bar stalls, but I record that as such. I don't curl X for 10, 2 with lean, then tell people I can do 10 perfectly :)

I still try to keep it pretty strict with rest-pauses, but those usually necessitate my only really loose form. It's still cleaner than 95% of the guys I see curling. I have seen some truly SHIT barbell curls in my time.
 
Bullit said:
If you're including EZ curl and not just straight bar I did 5x105 last week (assuming a 15 lb bar).
Thats my PR.

Wait a sec... some other thread said that a standard EZ bar is 25... so I guess I got 115x5.
 
Guld, yes, I have tiny joints, the wrist pain is controlable on the close grip presses but I have to wrap my wrists up pretty tight, especially on the partial reps. My triceps were a weak point at one time, but by beating them with close grip presses and weighted dips, plus every high intesity technique I can find, they finally started growing. Then again, when I started training a little over three years ago I had like 11 or 12" arms, so maybe `8" isn't so bad. I'm probably not overtraining, I rarely do more than 2 or 3 sets per bodypart in a given week, although my chest and shoulder workouts seem to tax my tri's just as much as my tricep workout. Part of the problem is small joints, the other part is that I overtrained my biceps for a good year and a half before I finally realized that maybe 20 sets for bi's twice a week was getting me nowhere. I gained about 1/2 on them in 6 weeks, and then when over a year without any change in size. My thighs seem to be the only thing that seems to grow regardless of overtraining or training method used.
Yeah, my proportions make them look about an inch smaller than they should. I'm dieting now so suddenly people think my triceps are larger. I've got high triceps so unless I'm pretty lean I think it makes my arms look a bit smaller than they are.
Currenty stats (haven't checked bf lately, but ten weeks out now from a photo shoot, so I'm dieting pretty hard):
Chest 50-51"
arms 18
waist 32
thighs 28.5-29
calves 18 (I have to detrain them a bit to keep them under 18.5 so that my arms are in proportion)
weight 214 this morning
 
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