Argument with cop last night

[the_alcatraz]

Scene: My girlfriend and I coming out of the parking lot adjacent to her bar.

Cop: License and registration
Me: Officer, what did you pull me over for?
Cop: Soberietary (however the fuck you spell that...he was trying to say he wants to check if I'm sober)
Me: Did I swiftly change lanes or was my car moving in a way that suggests I'm drunk?
Cop: No, that's why I didn't give you the breathalizer.
Me: So what you're saying is you pulled me over to check if I'm drunk when it was obvious that I'm not?
Cop: Sir, license and registration please...
Me: Officer, I don't think you provided a valid excuse for why you pulled me over and I believe that is my right...
Cop: Sir, I already told you what I pulled you over for...
Me: (Interrupted him) So is this your thing, you wait outside of bars and pull over cars as they come out of bars?
Cop: yes, to make sure they are safe...
Me: I believe that's called entrapment...(I hand him over my license and registration, ensurance papers, etc...)
Cop: He comes back and says your ensurance is expired but I reduced your ticket to 65$ instead of $120...
Me: So....let me recap. You pull someone over outside the bar, even if they don't give you a reason to and you try to find something on them...and since you are doing this every night right outside of my girlfriend's bar, that's not only entrapment but harrassement as well....what divion do you belong to? is your badge number on the ticket?
Cop: (stutters) yes, all the information is on the ticket....
Me: I'm going to take this to court...
Cop: if you want, I can make it worth your while and give you the full value of the ticket...
Me: So....now you're blackmailing me? I'm going to take a ride to division (censored) and submit a compliant with your badge number based on harassement, entrapment and blackmail....how's that sound?
Cop: (shocked look on his face) silence...
Me: Have a good night officer...
Cop: Good night...

I drive off....
Discuss.

 

[sixxtoes]

You need Probable Cause to justify why he pulled you over to begin with. It can be for anything from an equipment violation (Exp registration, brake light out) or a moving violation.

Once that is establish, if the Officer believes you to be Under the Influence, he can check your sobriety. BUT he has to have and give you a reason why he pulled you over, being near a bar DOES NOT give Probable Cause to check for sobriety.

Now, if he watched you stumble out of the bar and get into your car, that is enough Probable Cause to pull u over to check your sobriety.

Fight the ticket, you will get out of it

 

[TableFun]

I dont think anybody is going to give a shit about your complaint, but I think you're right.

 

[miplank]

If you weren't a dick he pry wouldn't have ticketed you.

 

[the_alcatraz]

being a dick has nothing to do with it. I know plenty of cops and I almost became a cop at one point. That very cop just chills out side my gf's bar and pull people over...I called (xxxx police) last night and they said he can't do that...

 

[WoodyO]

I don't know about Canada, but here in the US cops pull you over for any reason they see fit, and complaining to the department will get you nowhere. You can't claim entrapment by police staking out a bar around here either, since they set up major roadblocks and DUI checkpoints in random spots of every major city on every holiday and weekend.

Our company Xmas party was held at an Indian Casino this year, and the Valley Center Police Department set up a DUI checkpoint about 100 yards down the road catching people all night long.

 

[miplank]

being a dick has nothing to do with it. I know plenty of cops and I almost became a cop at one point. That very cop just chills out side my gf's bar and pull people over...I called (xxxx police) last night and they said he can't do that...

Being a dick has everything to do with it. I'm sure quite a few drunk people drive home after being at her bar. He is just making sure people are safe. Had you not had to complain about it you most likely would have been on your way in a few seconds.

 

[lartinos]

I have never fought a ticket, seems like it is giant waste of time just to save 100 bucks or whatever.
People have told me to fight tickets before, fuck that.
There's always going to be people who it and I am glad they do, just not for me.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Being a dick has everything to do with it. I'm sure quite a few drunk people drive home after being at her bar. He is just making sure people are safe. Had you not had to complain about it you most likely would have been on your way in a few seconds.

that's not true. it's the safe cop that pulls over the bar's customer everyday...and in canada, a cop is not allowed to do that....i dont know about the US.

 

[wootoom]

Alc i know how you feel brother....sometimes you don't care what's going to happen...im furious right now