Are cheat days benneficial?

[juve]

Ive lived with no cheat days for 2 years, and my friend cheats at least once a week. He has definatly seen better results than me, even though we have a simmilar diet, and workout together. It may be genetics, but i highly doubt it.

in the realm of personal deficiencies (lack of discipline) one can come up with the most igenious excuses (comparing oneself to a male counterpart??) - I say go for a coke binge instead, that'll slice you and dice you

forget food!

 

[serbyte]

Fuck you. If dieting only concerned how dedicated and educated one is, then i would be the most ripped motherfuker here. (I dont even like food too much, i think of it rather as a tool. When i eat, I eat based on the Macros i need at that time, and not based on flavor or hunger.) But it is not the case. Over the past two years of watching every little thing I eat, i have managed to Slow my metabolism down to about half of what it used to be. Before I ever dieted, I could eat crap all day long, and get huge, and stay lean. And if I wanted to get cut, i would just add some cardio, and cut carbs at night. I still ate whatever the fuk i wanted. This winter I ended up taking 1 week off of dieting to eat like a normal person, Not like a slob. I ate meals with my family, which included white bread. I ate carbs and fats and protien moderatly, while keeping my calories at about 2500. I didnt eat fast food or junk food, but i didnt eat healthy food either. I managed to put on 5 pounds of fat and increase 2 percent bodyfat. Mind you, i was going from a clean bulk to a lower calorie, normal diet, and i gained fat.

Im sure that there are more guys that feel the same way, and i think that junk days, if kept moderate are very beneficial. In my opinion, eating junk meals at least once a week will keep you metabolism running high. SC even posted that it keeps thyroid and leptin up. I wish someone had some studys of this.

Havent you noticed, guys that eat crap all the time do not gain fat, and if you tried to eat like them, you would turn into a fat slob. Thats cuz their metablism is used to eating like that, and so is ours in eating healthy. You have to throw the body off every once and a while to get things runing at good speed.

 

[JKurz1]

Havent you noticed, guys that eat crap all the time do not gain fat, and if you tried to eat like them, you would turn into a fat slob. Thats cuz their metablism is used to eating like that, and so is ours in eating healthy. You have to throw the body off every once and a while to get things runing at good speed.

HUH??????????????????? Come on bro......don't be ignorant........

 

[juve]

Havent you noticed, guys that eat crap all the time do not gain fat, and if you tried to eat like them, you would turn into a fat slob. Thats cuz their metablism is used to eating like that, and so is ours in eating healthy. You have to throw the body off every once and a while to get things runing at good speed.

No, I haven't - I must be oblivious to such a widespread phenomenon. But if we go off on this tangent, then:
1)fat/obese people have very fast metabolism (yes, it just can't cope with the amount of energy that's being given, plus poor food choices)
2)fat/obese people much higher amount of leptin, T3 yet are still obese because the food they eat only clogs the arteries and seems to have a preferrential in adipocytes
Be fat, you'll have top-notch hormonal feedback system (minus GH, Test and neuro/protein peptides associated with these)

By my replies I tried to help you, in a sense that while I don't advocate cheat days, refeed is what I recommend. mod protein + very high CLEAN carbs + ~20g's fat at most (make these EFA's)=your friend and the rest is riding in a back seat, you'll be in a prime in just a few weeks. Tell your friend you're Elite, while he has an eating disorder

 

[serbyte]

I cannot believe that no one agrees with me. Im going to be implimenting cheat days, but now im not so sure that i want to have a moderate fat intake. Would a cheat day of moderate fat protien and carbs be bad. My current diet is composed of about 250 carbs 250 protien and 40-60 fat. Eating like this I do not belive that i need a refeed. I never used to take cheat days, but now I am going to start just as an experiment. And for all you guys who think that i am doing this out of lack of dicipline, FUCK YOU! I could give two shits about eating junk. What i mean by a cheat day is similar to going to a breakfast house, and having a whole egg omlet, not an egg white omlet, eating the hash browns and eating my pancakes too. This is what i mean by crap food. Do you guys think that this type of meal will elicit alot of fat gain.

 

[JKurz1]

There is a reason it's called "cheating".................forget it and stick with your diet....


BTW- Settle down a little bit...no need to get heated...........

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Don't believe that no one agrees with you? Well, you'd better, because apparently no one here does. Stop being such an ass, and take what's being recommended to you. Juve and Jkurz are telling you what to do. If you'e into the game 100%, do that. If you don't want to follow whatever advice these two or any others pitch your way, THEN DON'T! It's that simple. If you feel it's beneficial, fine, do that.

 

[wtlftr]

Serb..load up one day every two weeks or so. Have fun, but stay stict the other 13 days, this will allow some sanity in dieting. (I didn't read entire thread) Unless you are gearing for a comp then you must stay strict. if general fitness is your goal then cheat every now and then

 

[youlikeadajuice?]

I think cheat meals keep your body from adjusting to the same caloric count. Definatly beneficial.

 

[JKurz1]

I think cheat meals keep your body from adjusting to the same caloric count. Definatly beneficial.[/QUO
Ignorant...........cycling calories and carbs is benefitial.............cheating is not!