Ok, I was going to let it slide. I even hit the back button, but, i just can't do it. Don't give me that shit about juice. Granted, one cannont possible attain a pro-caliber physique without it, but it doesn't magically grow muscles even if you're training improperly. Hey, dude, you know what I heard. I heard that if you eat some D-bol and shoot some test you can eat a candy bar and put on 20lbs of muscle. Better than that, you can lift the 20lbs DBs and still weigh 300lbs just because steroids automatically make you big even if you don't know shit about training or diet.