any competitors out there experienced in using gh for pre-contest?

[needsize]

I have used gh for about 9 months offseason, so am not a newbie to it, but have never used it for pre-contest. I am curious about how guys use it for pre-contest, whether or not it makes you hold water(its known to do that for the first little while when you start using it), how far out I would have to start it to get the effects I want, dosing(times and amounts), this sort of stuff....

 

[X Man]

I have used gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - for about 9 months offseason, so am not a newbie to it, but have never used it for pre-contest. I am curious about how guys use it for pre-contest, whether or not it makes you hold water(its known to do that for the first little while when you start using it), how far out I would have to start it to get the effects I want, dosing(times and amounts), this sort of stuff....

big bump for an awesome bro

 

[Faizakafez]

if your 12 weeks out...1-11 4ius gh

i would run 4iu's ( for fat loss purposely and muscle preservation soley were not going to build muscle here)

you drop it one week out from the show....

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

I would do no more then 6ius ED up until a week or 2 out. You and I know everyone is different in how we prep the last couple of weeks. You will hold a lil water at first i know i did but as your diet gets stricter and stricter you will shed the water weight off. You can tear your Ius down if you want to and make your last week 2iu's ED to play it safe. As long as your off a couple days before you start to deplete the last week. You will be fine, you will rip that water right off your body.

If your not looking for mass gains y not run IGF for fat loss right up until you start water depleting

 

[needsize]

I am not looking for mass, just hardness, maybe a little help with the fat, but not really....Condition wise, I am about 6-7 weeks out right now, but the contest isnt till sept 29, so basically I am seeing if I can maintain this bf until mid Aug...if so, i can be on stage in 7 weeks max. but I also have a baby due(I guess my wife is the one due) in a few weeks, so this might be tricky, so I may need an edge
not to mention, I swore that I would not run tren, masteron, or winny again, you cant block the hairloss from them, and I aint losing any more. So drug wise, I can really only run heavy eq and anavar, so I am hoping gh can give me the extra hardness I would get from those other drugs.
Dropping the gh a week out, will I still get the extra hardness on show day...I remember on gh I looked really hard, my only concern is losing that if I come off it too soon before the show
but I have a friend that just took 2nd at the provincials, his last show a few weeks ago, he had only been on gh 20 days, and no water but he was way hard....a few weeks later, he swears he started to hold water, and couldnt get as dry as he should have been

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

I always noticed a lil water the the beginning with gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - . But your keeping your IUs low for hardness and fat loss. I think you will be perfectly fine, you will loose all the water prob 4wks in to the GH esp with the contest diet. You will get hard as nails. Your BF is super low anyway to start. Your talking a minimal amount of sub q water. Just keep your dose at like 4IUs then. You can even try just doing it 5 days EW or EOD that will deff help too. Just cut it one wk out or a day or two days before you salt or carb load before your depletion.

WOW your show is in the end of Sept and your already that ripped...Bro.I think your in damn good hands!

 

[needsize]

I always noticed a lil water the the beginning with gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - - growth hormone (somatropin) - . But your keeping your IUs low for hardness and fat loss. I think you will be perfectly fine, you will loose all the water prob 4wks in to the GH esp with the contest diet. You will get hard as nails. Your BF is super low anyway to start. Your talking a minimal amount of sub q water. Just keep your dose at like 4IUs then. You can even try just doing it 5 days EW or EOD that will deff help too. Just cut it one wk out or a day or two days before you salt or carb load before your depletion.

WOW your show is in the end of Sept and your already that ripped...Bro.I think your in damn good hands!

along the lines with what I was thinking
The low bf was just because I wanted to be shredded for the summer...and now that I am this lean, thats part of why I want to do the show now, I am that close to being ready

 

[e6er]

I gained 8lbs of water weight in the first 2 weeks and lost it 2 weeks later. 5iu's per day.

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

along the lines with what I was thinking
The low bf was just because I wanted to be shredded for the summer...and now that I am this lean, thats part of why I want to do the show now, I am that close to being ready

Thats awsome bro. You can go on cruise control for a while now. I wish i was that lean 3 months out for my last show. Best part is..You are actually going to get a lil bigger still its all going to show too being your so hard already.

Big K to you bro!!!

What else are you on now?? doses?

 

[needsize]

I am running 900mg eq, 500mg enth right now. When I start the contest prep, I was going to bump the test up over a gram, eq to 1200mg a week, and add var at 50mg a day, then about a month or so out was going to add the gh
A buddy of mine is the head judge at most of the shows around here, and today he figured that with the right diet, I am around 10lbs out of show weight, I would figure a tiny bit more but either way....I know over half that is water...
here is a link to some pics I took around 5 weeks ago, I am 1-2lbs leaner than this now, but you can see, compare my back to my front, the back is all water....I am a walking sponge

pics

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

Very nice. Thats basically what I did in terms of the EQ and Test. Even the Var..I actually ran the var higher just because I could..I was getting a great deal on it. You are good to go. When r you shutting of the Enth?
You should get rid of all that water on your back with the Var and GH. Maybe start the GH just earlier then a month so if you need to shut off sooner you have time to kill it and still get a month out of it.

 

[needsize]

Very nice. Thats basically what I did in terms of the Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - and Test. Even the Anavar - oxandrolone - ..I actually ran the Anavar - oxandrolone - higher just because I could..I was getting a great deal on it. You are good to go. When r you shutting of the testosterone enanthate?
You should get rid of all that water on your back with the Var and gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - . Maybe start the GH just earlier then a month so if you need to shut off sooner you have time to kill it and still get a month out of it.

I am still looking into whether or not I will have to kill it ahead of time, different opinions all around, that will help decide when I start it. I was going to drop the enth 2-3 weeks out, and run prop up till a week out. When I start to diet again, the water will start to go, i was fairly dry a week out last time, and by the day before, was dry as a bone
this was me the day before last time, dry before I was even done dropping the water out

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

WOW...Ya you were dry! Think you are ahead of the game this time? Ya everyone is different and everyone has a different way of attacking your last 2wks..Some people gradually lower everything and some people like me go for the shock method. Carb/salt up and kill it cold turkey.

 

[gautho]

Run it straight through and just cut the dosage down the last 3 weeks prior to show. Switch from T4 to T3 at that time also.

 

[mattdan]

Awesome job bro. File this under your mileage may vary.

I'm not a BB, never have been. I have been a power lifter - so keep that in mind.

I never personally felt that (over 2 cycles of GH) GH made me "hard" like you say. I did like the fat cutting ability if that's what you meant. Now I did get hard as hell when I was running GH and EQ together. I kinda felt there was a synergism there.

If I could offer some constructive criticizm, great abs, legs, chest, even your arms look good. But - I'd like to see you with bigger bicepts. They just seem a bit out of proportion to your chest. My opinion and I'm sure you'll take that as it was intended.

Great job bro and good luck.