2nd cycle, would appreciate your expertise

[elgenyo]

First a little about myself. I am 30, 5'9", 175lb. I am consistent in the gym and maintain a "decent" diet which honestly can and will be improved. My bf last I checked was 12%. My goal is to gain lean muscle with definition as well as lose some persistent body fat. Nothing extreme, for lack of a better description I'm looking for a MMA fighters body. I keep myself on a daily dose of supplements that consist of:
- 200 grams of protein via Muscle Milk in addition to my diet.
- Animal Pak
- Tonalin CLA
- Tribulus
- Milk Thistle
- SuperPump250
- Thermo ie Lipo6 or Scorch

I have completed a cycle of Sus250 in the past and responded well to it, however due to my ignorance I did not perform a pct so I feel I lost some of my gains.
I am not afraid to do my due diligence, however the more I read the more I realize that nobody is sure on anything and it really makes it hard to make an informed decision that you can sleep well on.

- I have 10 ampules of Omnadren 250, 2 x 20ml Tren A and 50ml of British Dragon Stanozolol.
- I have ready access to Test, Winstrol tabs, Eq, Methyl1 and dnp
- I have researched use of HCG and several methods of PCT including the new products from PP Natural Testosterone Recovery - LH Booster, Cortisol Controler & Testicular Sensitizer
- I am in no hurry, I want to do this right and come off it right.

Now on to my questions:
1. Can I use what I have to create a cycle or should I stock up on something else?
2. Should I be using my daily supplements in conjuntion with my cycle? ie thermo's, superpump250
3. The consensus on using Tren is to stack with Test, however while digging I have found sources that argue that Tren is highly androgenic and hits the same receptor sites as test. Test is good to ward off the sides of Tren but the source recommends using Test at the end of the cycle and that using Win is a better choice. This source was a executive moderator of another reputable site.

As you guys can tell, I'm a bit perplexed.

 

[joe d]

i have suggestion on sups. imo you should drop the animal pack they suck. its like swallowing rocks and expecting to get some minerals from them. use a good multi v. if you dont mind spending a little for a high quality vitamin i would get some dx7 from proteinfactory.com. that is what i use now.

i also wonder about running tren solo. it makes perfect sence to me although the general opinion here at ef is against it. i dont see why it would be bad other than the libedo issue if you get it, but that could easily be treated. i think the winny would be a good addition for the last 4-6 wks. i would also run dostinex through the whole cycle. keep in mind im not suggesting you run the cycle becfause i havent done it myself yet. im hooked on test. i just dont see the great harm and have seen countless posts all over the net from people claiming success with tren only along with decca only.

 

[elgenyo]

Here is the site for your review.

Tren and Test Cycle?? - Page 2 - Anabolic Steroids - Steroid Forums

and another post where the mod recommends using test at the end of the cycle and not as a base for the duration, thus minimizing estrogen problems

Need advice on my tren cycle - Anabolic Steroids - Steroid Forums

 

[elgenyo]

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[needtogetaas]

First a little about myself. I am 30, 5'9", 175lb. I am consistent in the gym and maintain a "decent" diet which honestly can and will be improved. My bf last I checked was 12%. My goal is to gain lean muscle with definition as well as lose some persistent body fat. Nothing extreme, for lack of a better description I'm looking for a MMA fighters body. I keep myself on a daily dose of supplements that consist of:
- 200 grams of protein via Muscle Milk in addition to my diet.
- Animal Pak
- Tonalin CLA
- Tribulus
- Milk Thistle
- SuperPump250
- Thermo ie Lipo6 or Scorch

I have completed a cycle of Sus250 in the past and responded well to it, however due to my ignorance I did not perform a pct so I feel I lost some of my gains.
I am not afraid to do my due diligence, however the more I read the more I realize that nobody is sure on anything and it really makes it hard to make an informed decision that you can sleep well on.

- I have 10 ampules of Omnadren 250, 2 x 20ml Tren A and 50ml of British Dragon Stanozolol.
- I have ready access to Test, Winstrol tabs, Eq, Methyl1 and dnp
- I have researched use of HCG and several methods of PCT including the new products from PP Natural Testosterone Recovery - LH Booster, Cortisol Controler & Testicular Sensitizer
- I am in no hurry, I want to do this right and come off it right.

Now on to my questions:
1. Can I use what I have to create a cycle or should I stock up on something else?
Yes you sure can
1-10 omna 250mg ew
1-8 tren ace 100mg eod
2-10 winny 50mg ed
1-10 hcg 500ius ew
10-14 clomid 25mg ed
12-16 test recovery stack ed

keep arimadex,letro and dotinex on hand for sides.
2. Should I be using my daily supplements in conjuntion with my
sure why not

cycle? ie thermo's, superpump250
3. The consensus on using Tren is to stack with Test, however while digging I have found sources that argue that Tren is highly androgenic and hits the same receptor sites as test. Test is good to ward off the sides of Tren but the source recommends using Test at the end of the cycle and that using Win is a better choice. This source was a executive moderator of another reputable site.

As you guys can tell, I'm a bit perplexed.

Yes it can be done. Will you feel a fuck of a lot better running test with tren? yes you will and for many reason.

Will running tren alone be a "better cycle" like will you get more gains from it or anything like that. PFFFFT NO NO NO.


God where do people come up with this stuff?

 

[elgenyo]

ty for you quick response!

 

[elgenyo]

keep arimadex,letro and dotinex on hand for sides.

what is the dosage reccomendation? Do I need all three?

 

[needtogetaas]

what is the dosage reccomendation? Do I need all three?

Yes all 3. Always have all 3 if you are a steroid user. do not use them unless you need them and the dose on all of them would depend on what kind of problems you are having.

 

[elgenyo]

UPDATE:

I obtained access to Test Prop 20ml. How does the dosage change if any?

Thank you!

 

[elgenyo]

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