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Progressive overload and a caloric surplus is all that is needed for hypertrophy. This talk about having to do a certain number of reps to grow is absurd.
WTF is this 5x5 routine that is so popular ?
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van_wilder
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ScottK345 said:
why are you squatting 3 times a week?VW
Joe Stenson
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van_wilder said:
VW
Isn't that what the program calls for?
blut wump
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Be more positive, bro.Joe Stenson said:
The program is based around the squat as the main driving force. The three sessions, for squats, can be thought of as light, medium, heavy and, during that phase, getting the volume of squatting in is a big part of the program. You soon get to thinking of your squats as warmups of varying intensity and the results help you to like them even more.
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On this board, 5X5 is God.
Not that it's a bad program - but you guys should look at what you are saying before you just put off other people's ideas as insignificant. You are telling some people on this thread that they are idiots because they believe 8-12 reps is the "magic number." Then you go on to tell them that 5X5 is the "magic program." Seems a little two-faced to me.
A lot of the BASIC PRINCIPLES that madcow posts I really do believe are accurate. But where you go from some of these ideas to the major claim that 5X5 is the most efficient workout ever... I just don't see it. There have to be many other ways to apply that knowledge (dual-factor) into a program that isn't specifically 5X5 that would be just as effective.
Not to mention - wasn't there a Poll thread on the results that people on this very board got from using the 5X5 program? I don't recall seeing everyone's results showing size and strength gains.
I have no doubt that the 5X5 is a kick ass program for many people, and that the bullshit that the BB media engine pumps out is useless. But the trend lately around here is to tell anyone that doesn't use the 5X5 that they are an idiot wasting thier time - and unless you have been training with them, and seeing thier results, its just not fair to jump to that conclusion.
Not that it's a bad program - but you guys should look at what you are saying before you just put off other people's ideas as insignificant. You are telling some people on this thread that they are idiots because they believe 8-12 reps is the "magic number." Then you go on to tell them that 5X5 is the "magic program." Seems a little two-faced to me.
A lot of the BASIC PRINCIPLES that madcow posts I really do believe are accurate. But where you go from some of these ideas to the major claim that 5X5 is the most efficient workout ever... I just don't see it. There have to be many other ways to apply that knowledge (dual-factor) into a program that isn't specifically 5X5 that would be just as effective.
Not to mention - wasn't there a Poll thread on the results that people on this very board got from using the 5X5 program? I don't recall seeing everyone's results showing size and strength gains.
I have no doubt that the 5X5 is a kick ass program for many people, and that the bullshit that the BB media engine pumps out is useless. But the trend lately around here is to tell anyone that doesn't use the 5X5 that they are an idiot wasting thier time - and unless you have been training with them, and seeing thier results, its just not fair to jump to that conclusion.
van_wilder
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Joe Stenson said:
I don't think so...what's your split look like?
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van_wilder said:
I'm not doing the program, but blut wump just explained it. Look around at the main 5x5 thread or people's journals; they all have squats listed as the first exercise Mon/Wed/Fri. You just don't go balls-to-the-wall on each of the days.
van_wilder
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Joe Stenson said:
hmmm...okay... i'm thinking of needsize's 5x5, i was under the impression that it did not involve that much squatting??
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Joe Stenson
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van_wilder said:
Yeah sorry bro, that just hit me, and I realize where the confusion is coming from. You're thinking of Needsize's 5x5, but the new thing on this board is madcow's version.
van_wilder
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Joe Stenson said:
Okay....my apologies then! I have only used Needsize's 5 x 5 so i can't comment on any other program! sorry for the confusion... I don't spend too much time over on this side of the board but i really should! I'm an idiot..
As for my opinion on the whole rep range, it remains the same as my previous post.
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