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amandaa727

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:p (crossed the border) im now on var/primo (all oral). 10mg ed of var and 50mg of primo acetate. im in my first week.i was doing it topically with dmso gel but it smelled too bad and it was killing my skin. so im eating it now too. im climbing with clen too. feeling stronger. im interested in doing the no carb ketosis diet which i started on monday but totally messed it up last night. heheeh. or should i wait til after to get the most gains. whats ur opinion on my choice on supplements here and diet. and whatca think on my pics

5'5" 125lbs @ 16%bf on an electric hanheld)wanting to compete in a few months but these pics are 6 weeks old and im not as lean so i wanna work on that. im gonna go 7-8 weeks on this cycle. how many carbs should i eat. i eat very extremely clean but then i get cravings like 3x a week and have really big cheat meals mostly on dessert. i love brownies n crap. i want to put 3inches everywhere (arms n legs) n trim my waist down and stay the same size. i did a var only cycle with clen in december but i didnt do the clen right so i just added primo to this cycle so i know what to expect from the var n clen
thanx
 
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Wow. Well the pix look great! Welcome to the boards! I guess my first question is what is your goal w/ all this? I couldn't comment on anything until I know what you are looking to accomplish. Also can you list up your current stats? Competition or ? You are doing the primo dose 1/week? I'm confused about what you are "eating".
And what are you looking to accomplish w/ a no carb ketosis diet? I will NOT recommend a no carb diet because you really need the carbs. People can't build muscle on the Atkins diet. And also if you are cycling a stack like you are, I'd be looking to eat in accordance w/ your supps. I might recommend a carb cycling diet if you were looking to lose bodyfat, however you look very lean. If you cheat yourself on the nutrients you need to fuel muscle building, the whole var / primo is sort of pointless? And also can you post up your training & diet schedule?
 
Sassy69 said:
Wow. Well the pix look great! Welcome to the boards! I guess my first question is what is your goal w/ all this? I couldn't comment on anything until I know what you are looking to accomplish. Also can you list up your current stats? Competition or ? You are doing the primo dose 1/week? I'm confused about what you are "eating".
And what are you looking to accomplish w/ a no carb ketosis diet? I will NOT recommend a no carb diet because you really need the carbs. People can't build muscle on the Atkins diet. And also if you are cycling a stack like you are, I'd be looking to eat in accordance w/ your supps. I might recommend a carb cycling diet if you were looking to lose bodyfat, however you look very lean. If you cheat yourself on the nutrients you need to fuel muscle building, the whole var / primo is sort of pointless? And also can you post up your training & diet schedule?
Thanks so much for the reply
5'5" 125lbs @ 18%bf wanting to compete in a few months but these pics are 6 weeks old and im not as lean so i wanna work on that. im gonna go 7-8 weeks on this cycle. so no carb but how many carbs should i eat. i eat very extremely clean but then i get cravings like 3x a week and have really big cheat meals mostly on dessert. i love brownies n crap. i want to put 3inches everywhere (arms n legs) n trim my waist down and stay the same size
 
Exactly what Sassy said.

AAS and no carb is a little silly - usually - AAS help you gain muscle. Muscle is hard to gain without high protein and MODERATE CARB intake ...... restrict you diet too much, and you will restrict your gains.

That is a lot for a first cycle - Var, Primo, AND Clen ..... how will you know what is working? Or what is a "bad" choice (side effects, bad reaction)? Typically, you should do one AAS at a time. Stacking should be reserved for later cycles - AFTER you do the compounds alone first.

Also, before taking AAS, your diet and training should be set. You need to PLAN first, then start supplementing. AAS is serious - can cause very serious, very permanent sides. There is no such thing as a side-free AAS.


Welcome!!!!!!! Glad you are here! :)
 
Daisy_Girl said:
Exactly what Sassy said.

AAS and no carb is a little silly - usually - AAS help you gain muscle. Muscle is hard to gain without high protein and MODERATE CARB intake ...... restrict you diet too much, and you will restrict your gains.

That is a lot for a first cycle - Var, Primo, AND Clen ..... how will you know what is working? Or what is a "bad" choice (side effects, bad reaction)? Typically, you should do one AAS at a time. Stacking should be reserved for later cycles - AFTER you do the compounds alone first.

Also, before taking AAS, your diet and training should be set. You need to PLAN first, then start supplementing. AAS is serious - can cause very serious, very permanent sides. There is no such thing as a side-free AAS.




Welcome!!!!!!! Glad you are here! :)


i did a var only cycle with clen in december but i didnt do the clen right so i just added primo to this cycle so i know what to expect from the var n clen
thanx
 
When do you plan to compete? Are you talkign like 8 weeks from now? I want to say when you are gettign that close to show time its really hard to build because your diet should have you startign to lean down. If you are talkign figure comp, you need to get to around 10-11 % bf. Also you need to get your diet consistent w/ none of this 3 x/ week desserts. The idea of contest prep is not just training & leaning out, but also manipulating your metabolism to look a certain way at a certain time of day on show day. The only way to do this is through consistent diet and small changes along the way in response to your overall look & progress.

Can you be more specific about where you are relative to your competition date? That will really start to determine what you can expect out of your cycle & also how your diet should look.
 
Sassy69 said:
When do you plan to compete? Are you talkign like 8 weeks from now? I want to say when you are gettign that close to show time its really hard to build because your diet should have you startign to lean down. If you are talkign figure comp, you need to get to around 10-11 % bf. Also you need to get your diet consistent w/ none of this 3 x/ week desserts. The idea of contest prep is not just training & leaning out, but also manipulating your metabolism to look a certain way at a certain time of day on show day. The only way to do this is through consistent diet and small changes along the way in response to your overall look & progress.

Can you be more specific about where you are relative to your competition date? That will really start to determine what you can expect out of your cycle & also how your diet should look.

i was really wanting to do a figure comp. in july but if i cant get lean enough by then then i could make the october comp.
 
amandaa727 said:
i was really wanting to do a figure comp. in july but if i cant get lean enough by then then i could make the october comp.
When in July you look great I am sure if you get things in order you can be contest ready.
 
You know even just 5 years ago it was the norm for women to pump iron often for years before considering anabolic hormones. It seems like over the last 2 or 3 years it gradually become common for women to talk about using anabolics, even stacking them before they've even gotten close to exhausting their genetic capacity for muscle gain.

I dont get it. Is everyone in such a gigantic hurry now, or is it that no one thinks a worthy goal is worth the effort?
 
RW, I think it is an overall impatience of the world now. Everyone wants what they want YESTERDAY, but don't want to actually do a lot to get it.

I mean, if working out does a little, adding one AAS will add a lot, and stacking 2-3 compounds will do EVERYTHING FOR YOU. It is an ignorant view, IMHO.
 
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