worried I am not getting a good enough lat workout

[aurelius]

i know alot of people do the chinnups. but i have found that they put quite a bit of stress on my shoulders as i continue to get heavier and with the amount of benching that i do that's not too good. i usually dont do chinnups and tend to go for the rowing motion type exercises that will mimic my benchpress.

this is NOT to say that they will not work for you but just make sure you work the rotators as you dont want them to give out on you. rows and pulldowns just seem to work better for me than anything else.

You´re probably doing them wrong. Forget the wide grip and move your hands to about shoulder width. If you still have trouble (as I do sometimes) move your hands to a neutral position. Can beat weighted chins. Deadlifts also for the whole package.

 

[b fold the truth]

gettinlarger, HulkRow: If he trains his like I do mine...it is lightly and no where near failure. I do a few sets of lat exercises mainly like I would train my rotators...lightly and conservatively. It is more like a constant pump...not trying to make them grow.

I did get to do a full back routine while I was in Chattanooga a few times. It was good to have some heavier dbells for dbell rows (wish they had something heavier than a 130 though) and it was nice to do some seated pulley rows (wish the stack was heavier too...).

B True

 

[aurelius]

(wish the stack was heavier too...).

Isn´t it always like that. I get up to around 80% 1rm and run out of weight.

 

[coolcolj]

Then pin some plates onto the stack, the peg is long enough for that, or else pinch a peg from a nearby machine

 

[the People's Champ]

I have relatively long arms compared to my upper body and doing overhand grip bent row to sternum just don't give me the right "groove" to benefit from them (biceps come too much into play to get the bar to the sternum and also the arms flare out and it's medial rather than lower traps that does the job, causing the standard bent row to become half-baked exercise for me)

For my biomechanics I found that shoulderwitdh reverse grip bent rows to abs render much better results (especially the lats)


Other exercise that would fit in the OLDSKOOL regime:

- one-arm dumbell row
- hammer row machine

For most people lats seem to respond better to higher reps (10-12)

It's a shame your rotators don't like the chins , do at least some pulldowns:

- 1 * triple drop set medium grip pulldowns to front
- 1 * triple drop set close reverse grip pulldown

for the bb rows, using a close grip try bringing the weight to your abdomen, and use your arms as hooks. when I do this, sometimes the bar hits my thighs or waist, but I know I am hitting my back a lot more than my bis.