Without FLAMES, With RESTRAINT!

[Slopain]

A commonly held belief of the TRUE vets (those with us for over 2 years) is that the new wave of people on this board flame too much, act immaturely, and don't do their own leg work.
They don't respect the vets (those that deserve it) and are more concerned with petty arguments, KARMA, # of posts than TRUE REAL WORLD KNOWLEDGE.

When I was new to the board in 99 the board was a family, when a debate (notice ITS DEBATE AND NOT AN ARGUMENT) occured, it was civil and well thought out. If you said something you had to back it up with verfifiable facts. You didn't personally insult people. You didn't post 3 questions in a row and let others do the work for you.

Now its more important than ever to do your own research why? b/c 75% of the people that post answers have no clue what they are talking about. So do yourself a favor and search and research things for yourself if your still lost, pose a well thought out clear question that shows you have looked but are still missing pieces to the puzzle. Present your question providing all the info necessary.

I am tired of the flames. Disagreeing is ok and good for progress in truth, but personal attacks, flames, and immaturety will get you banned.

Basically speak with reason and respect or dont speak at all.

 

[manny78]

Good post SLopain but unfortunately I know some people here will keep acting like kiddies. There's 3 threads daily about ** products, about clomids post cycle, the best first cycle...... blablabla. We put an end to this on the Spanish board with 2 sticky that newbies must read before asking questions. I think there should be one like this here too

 

[Golfer18--old]

I try to stay mature as much as possible, but the worst comes out in me when i read ryanh's post. Therefore i try not to read them.

 

[The Bull]

Great post Slopain...I agree 100%...

 

[The Ranger]

I must concur with Slo on this. We try to help as much as possible, but lately it's like beating a dead horse...this alone has driven the Vets and older Mods in hiding, only to emerge when a topic is thought out, and responded to in a mature fashion.

I would like to see those days return as well...We all, and I mean all, have to work together...as for the Karma, I personally feel it's better suited for the chat board....but agian, that's just me....

Ranger

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Lest you drive knowledgeable people away.

 

[Slopain]

Lest you drive knowledgeable people away.

Matt, E2, Fukkenshredded, the list goes on and on. Ranger, 2Thick, Mac and others that still participate only due so at a fraction of what the used to, and yes schedules change - but I have to think (party because they stated so) that the primary reason this wealth of knowledge is drying up is because they arent rebutted with knowledgable debates, but childlike name calling.

I don't want to sound like Im preaching, but more than that I dont want to lose the knowledgable people that we have left.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Good post Slopain...Actually, now that you mention it...I haven't seen you around much lately. Same with The Ranger.

Good to see you guys back!

 

[flexed1]

Nice post and very true. Folks need to realize that most of the everyday posters know nothing about bodybuilding only trying to be popular online. We try our best but sometime sthe bullshit makes you ask yourself is it worth it.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I agree with you 100 % bud! When I first joined this board a while back all the old vets and mods were here posting regularily and the threads I would come here and read everyday were interesting and filled with knowledge. Now, instead of that I see flames everywhere and the quality of the threads has gone WAY down hill. If think that is we can actually cut down the number of flames and stupid answers then we will be able to regain the guys back to the board. I love Elite and consider it a second home and would like to see it back like it was in the "old days" when I was still a little newbie. That is why I am over reading at AF a lot as they are all there and if you guys saw the quality of threads over there the knowledge is endless. Help us clean it up bro's

M18