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Why the AMES test does not say DNP is safe

DNP or any oxidative uncopuler destroys the membrane - or at very small concentrations destoyed - the proton gradient change I in the inner part of mitochondrial membrane. Cells continue to oxidize food molecules to feed electrons into the electron-transport chin, but H+ ions pumped across the membrane flow back into the mitochondria in futile cycle. Their energy cannot be tapped to drive ATV synthesis, and hence is released as heat. Patients who have been given small doses of DNP lose weight because their fat reserves are used more rapidly to feed the electron-transport chain, and the whole process simply “wastes” energy.
A similar mechanism of heat production I used by specialized tissue composed of brown fat cells, which is abundant in newborn humans and in hibernating animals. These cells are packed with mitochondria that leak part of their H+ gradient futilely back across the membrane for the sole purpose of warming up the organism. These cells are brown because they are packed with mitochondria, which contain high concentrations of pigmented proteins, such as cytochromes.

The DNP collapses the electrochemical proton gradient completely. H+ ions that are pumped to one side of the membrane flow back freely, and therefore no energy can be stored across the membrane.

An electrochemical gradient is made up of two components: a concentration gradient and an electrical potential. If the membrane is made permeable to K+ with migraine, K+ will be driven into the matrix by the electrical potential of the inner membrane ( negative inside, positive outside). The influx of positively charged K+ will abolish the membrane’s electrical potential . In contrast, the concentration component of the H+ gradient ( the PH difference ) is unaffected by ingrain. Therefore, only part of the driving force that makes it energetically favorable for H+ ions to flow back into the matrix is lost.


DNP can change protein expression if it caused any frameshifit/deletion/ insertion mutation. a frameshift mutation (also called a frameshift or a framing error) is a mutation that inserts or deletes a single nucleotide from a DNA sequence. Due to the triplet nature of gene expression, the insertion/deletion can disrupt the grouping of the codons, resulting in a completely different translation (Translation_(genetics)) from the original.
 
what scare more more than cancer is that DNP can raise body tempreture. enzymes are turned off and on at certain body tempretures , if change of in tempreture trigered some not common inactive enzymes then it can cause a real problem.

also big increase in body temp can cause tissue damage of certain organs that are heat sensitive like heart, liver, kidneys, and most impartant the brain.
 
x_muscle said:
what scare more more than cancer is that DNP can raise body tempreture. enzymes are turned off and on at certain body tempretures , if change of in tempreture trigered some not common inactive enzymes then it can cause a real problem.

also big increase in body temp can cause tissue damage of certain organs that are heat sensitive like heart, liver, kidneys, and most impartant the brain.

With normal use DNP the core body temperature doesn't go up - the body is able to compensate by (excessive) sweating. So enzyme activation or tissue damage would only be an issue during an overdose of DNP.
 
Maetenloch said:
With normal use DNP the core body temperature doesn't go up - the body is able to compensate by (excessive) sweating. So enzyme activation or tissue damage would only be an issue during an overdose of DNP.

Let's see a show of hands-- who has measured their body temp while on DNP? What time of day and what did you read?
 
DNP does raise body temp. The entropy created by H+ release (remember, this is happening constantly) increases core temp and temp of surroundings because of heat emmission.
Taken in a moderate dose, the temp increase is similar to having a slight fever, it shouldnt go up too high.
So far, all evidence points to DNP not causing mutations.
Maybe it does mutate but there is a spontaneous back mutation which corrects the codon.............but not likley, actually id say no way.
 
bigrand said:
DNP does raise body temp. The entropy created by H+ release (remember, this is happening constantly) increases core temp and temp of surroundings because of heat emmission.
Taken in a moderate dose, the temp increase is similar to having a slight fever, it shouldnt go up too high.
So far, all evidence points to DNP not causing mutations.
Maybe it does mutate but there is a spontaneous back mutation which corrects the codon.............but not likley, actually id say no way.


What degree are you going for? Are you headed to med school?>
 
Hopefully medschool, starting with BS in Bio, emphasis on medicalmicrobiology! either that or, just get this BS, then get a second degree BSN and be an NP, close enough to a doctor!
 
Fonz said:
Mitochondrial protection:

5g ALCar + 600mg R-ALA + 100mg Co-Q10 + 3g Vit.C + 800IU Vit. E.

That protects your mitochondria from oxidative damage.

If you want, you can substitute Co-Q10 for idebenone(More potent synthetic form) 45-60mg.

Oh and btw, R-ALA recycles both Vit. C and Vit. E and is itself both fat and water soluble(A phospholipid).

Fonz

If you do this, doesn't it counter act the way DNP works? DNP is garbage!
 
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