Which of them do it???

[SonnyBlack]

Is the eating of too many bad carbs or simple sugars (such as candy bars, regular soda) the only things that can can make u insulin resistant and halt you fat loss???or can u become insulin resistant and hoard fat even if u only eat good complex carbs (such as veggies, fruits, pasts, brown rice, potatoes, etc.) Will you gain fat on any kinds of carbs or are only the simple carbs that make u gain fat???

 

[diamonddiceclay]

carbs are bad in general if you want to drop fat-you should monitor carb intake closely and keep it below 40g per day

 

[SonnyBlack]

then how come 30-30-30 diets work huh???Man im tired of all the carb bashing that goes on in this place..its ridiculous. I did low carb mod fat high protein for like a yr and i didnt loose shit! I followed advice from all the low carb diets...and nothin. Well like a month ago i started doing a 50-40-10 diet and i have been lossin around 2 pds a day...so i wonder...why do u guys think that low carb is the only thing that'll work! By doin that u only confuse the newbies and make em think that its the only thing thattll work. Now another thing...the pumps that i have been gettin at the gym have been nothing more than incredible! i have gone up in everything. I look leaner and more muscular. Thats another thing ...whenever youre on a keto or ckd diet ...u look like shit. Man no offense dood...but cosmo cramer...i saw your first pics and u looked very good bro...something i wanted to accomplish...but i recently saw your last pics after all that ketoing...and again no offense...but u look much worse! U look like u lost alot of size and your body looks disproportionate. Now everywhere else that i chek...i always see that u need both carbs and protein...and low fat. Isnt that the standard bodybuilding diet bros! And i think vaget for teaching me that u dont have to cut carbs completelyy to cut. So again i go back and ask: WHY DO U GUYS THINK THAT CARBS ARE THAT EVIL.....EVEN WHEN ACCOMPANIED WITH A LOW FAT DIET????I HAVE YET TO FIND A COMPLETE ANSWER ON THIS....I THOUGH IT WAS ALL ABOUT CALORIE DEFICIT!

 

[SonnyBlack]

oh and another thing...dont carbs raise t3 levels helping u burn more fat??

 

[sixtythirtyten]

i have been trying to explain this to people also but I realized they just don't want to hear it so it is a lost cause. I agree with you though, the perfect bb diet is 60%c 30%p 10% fat. It is also the perfect diet for staying healthy. I think that there is this big misconception that getting big and ripped requires that doing all this unhealthy stuff to your body. I remember when somebody told me that eating bad cholesterol increases test cause test comes from cholesterol. Then you see people everywhere taking some form of eca stack and intoxifing their liver and then they wonder why they are losing muscle and getting puffy nipples. And yes, if you know anything about nutrition you know that low carbs will slow down thyroid.

 

[SonnyBlack]

finally someone with a mind of his own....no more shepp....baaah!!! Nice one bro

 

[SonnyBlack]

bump

 

[SonnyBlack]

bump this up bros...for more opinions.....

 

[blood_drinker]

Diamond, not to bash you, but when you write your infamous anti-carb crap you look pathetic. But me, I just laugh. Realize man, that low carb is not the only way to go , as much as you may like it ! Dont you get sick of hearing the same thing from everone, or do you just reply the same replies and never look at the threads again once youve marked your territory?

 

[blood_drinker]

BTW sonny, I am going to attempt an answer to your question to keep this thread on topic. Diamond, if you happen to read the post above, PM a reply.

Sonny, carbohydrates are merely a fancy name for sugar/glucose. That is what they will end up as in the body once they are broken down. Now, the difference between complex and simple is the time it takes for your body to digest them. Some carbs will produce a steady and longer lasting insulin spike, while some will spike it heavily for a short period of time. Honey for example, spikes the insulin for 2 hours, making it ideal for post workout.

40-30-30 diets work, but once insulin levels are up, fat loss is slowed. It is not halted, yet the trick with the 40-30-30 is giving you great pumps for a low cal diet in the gym+cardio, while allowing fat great fat loss in the evening, where you will restrict carbs and will have no insulin spikes. My 40-30-30 has 160g carbs. Dont be fooled by the 40g bullshit going around.
About the 603010 diet, the fat in that has to be upped, no fat will definetely halt your weight loss. 10% fat is too little, while 60%carbs is too much, IMO. Even if you are doing DNP, 50% carbs is fine.