What happened to these guys?

[bonacris]

I remember seeing somewhere that he said he will never be close to 300lbs again. He wants to get down to around 230-240 range and stay there.

Is this after he retires. I think he can easily carry off 240lbs. He has a massively wide frame.. he is a great ambassador for the sport would hate to see him ruin this by trying to stay 280-300lbs

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[pdaddyII]

insulin abuse, judging is different than it was.. what you view as looking better isn't what wins Mr O today. no idea who is right or wrong but if you showed a pic of todays Mr. O to 100 females maybe 2 or 3 would say "wow he is hot".. vs. show a pic of 30 years ago and probably 85% would say they liked.

everyone has different goals.. personally I do this for my own reasons and if someone has a problem with it they can STFU cause I don't care. just like jay cutler has his goals and the skinny marathon runner/swimmer has his goals. it is not me to judge who is right or wrong as long as you work your ass off and respect fitness you are okay in my book

You are comparing a marathon runner to a IFBB pro? They're not even in the same ballpark. One is focused on endurance and health while the other is focused on pure chemically altered looks. Bodybuilding is not a sport, like events endurance athletes compete in.

 

[wootoom]

Coming from a faggot vegan LOLOLOL


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[HudsonFalcon]

After you go back 10-15, go back another 10-15. Those guys trained for aesthetics rather than just size. You'll never see another Zane, Schwarzenegger or Mentzer.

Agreed. That was the golden age of bodybuilding.

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[stevesmi]

You are comparing a marathon runner to a IFBB pro? They're not even in the same ballpark. One is focused on endurance and health while the other is focused on pure chemically altered looks. Bodybuilding is not a sport, like events endurance athletes compete in.

you missed the point of my post. atleast I think you did?

the point is if someone wants to look like a bodybuilder and work their ass off then I give them props. . and if someone wants to look like an endurance athlete and work their ass off I also give them props.. hell if you want to be a pot bellied powerlifter who can bench 500 but has a gut that is your business too.. there isn't a right or wrong way in fitness.

does that make more sense for you now?

maybe you are saying a bodybuilder is just chemically enhanced and doesn't have to work for it? if so you are dead wrong. and I was an endurance athlete myself at one time BEF (before Elite fitness).. if you think they aren't on GH, Test, EPO, GW, and other 'chemicals' you are sadly mis-informed. atleast the ones that are winning the events sure as hell are, same with those crossfit guys.. Lance Armstrong was busted for using PED's remember? now if you want to go out there and do a half marathon in 2 hours of a 5K in 25 minutes then no you don't have to be enhanced.

 

[bonacris]

You are comparing a marathon runner to a IFBB pro? They're not even in the same ballpark. One is focused on endurance and health while the other is focused on pure chemically altered looks. Bodybuilding is not a sport, like events endurance athletes compete in.

I see what you did there

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[stevesmi]

as a former endurance athlete I pity anyone who thinks endurance athletes are 'healthy' .. do you realize how fucked up my feet, ankles, knees, shins, hips are from doing that? these are PERMANENT injuries that I will have to deal with the rest of my life. the human body did not evolve to run on hard surfaces!!

bodybuilding and weight training is far healthier unless you go out there with a big ego and are a douche when you lift and use bad form. I have to constantly argue with idiot parents in my school who are concerned that weightlifting stunts growth or any of that other nonsense. weightlifting is the safest 'sport' out there. 0 injuries at my school from weight training. do you know how many injuries from soccer, football, volleyball, cross country, track?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

as a former endurance athlete I pity anyone who thinks endurance athletes are 'healthy' .. do you realize how fucked up my feet, ankles, knees, shins, hips are from doing that? these are PERMANENT injuries that I will have to deal with the rest of my life. the human body did not evolve to run on hard surfaces!!

bodybuilding and weight training is far healthier unless you go out there with a big ego and are a douche when you lift and use bad form. I have to constantly argue with idiot parents in my school who are concerned that weightlifting stunts growth or any of that other nonsense. weightlifting is the safest 'sport' out there. 0 injuries at my school from weight training. do you know how many injuries from soccer, football, volleyball, cross country, track?

Holy fuck....weight lifting stunts growth in kids.....why cant these people just kill themselves? I am so tired of this shit. You should see the faces on these people at my gym when my 12 year old reps 675 on the sled. That's loaded down with 45's....not some move the pin pulley assisted shit.
You would have to actually fracture a growth plate while lifting to fuck up the kid. What does heavy lifting do? It causes the release of more GH for Christ sake. How does that stunt growth? Tell that to my 5'10" 200 lb 12 year old with the 14.5" bi's and 26" quads.
That doesn't mean you don't have to have them do lots of rotator prehab and teach them to lift intelligently and to not go too heavy with things involving shoulders when they are younger. Because you certainly can fuck up their connective tissue/joints if you are a shit bag parent/trainer. Well hey BTC....really? 675 for legs? Yeah....that's a two rep max and its maybe once a month because he gets super motivated.....AND....its LEGS....not shoulders.



........AND......to elaborate on steve's post its not the weights that stunt the growth of their kids....its the shitty genetics YOU passed along to YOUR kids people!!! Or the SHIT food you feed them. Or the shit bags that teach their kids not to eat meat!! Not the weights.

 

[infraredline]

Is this after he retires. I think he can easily carry off 240lbs. He has a massively wide frame.. he is a great ambassador for the sport would hate to see him ruin this by trying to stay 280-300lbs

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I'm pretty sure he said he was trying to do that now. For the most part he is done competing

 

[liffalot]

The gut comes from insulin. Straight up.

Cutler goes on stage with no bloat. His BF is too low on stage to look bloated.

The "bloat" you refer to is that gut which is undeniable.

Stevesmi, I love the look 30 years ago. Those dudes pulled chicks. Any modern day pro bodybuilder that gets chicks is getting the same kind of freak that they are themselves.

My thoughts exactly. Don't get me wrong, my world doesn't revolve around chicks by any means, but I always looked at bodybuilding as a sport where the endgame was supposed to be an aesthetically pleasing person, not a freak.