Training myths?

[ZZuluZ]

"OK, I realise this is going to make me sound like a bit of a newbie, but instead of training to failure what do you do instead? "

Stay 1-2 reps short of failure. This is probably the best advice you'll ever hear and almost everyone here will disagree with me.

Going to failure puts your CNS under a great deal of stress. Your muscles will recuperate in 3-4 days but you'll take a week off to rest your CNS.

Going 1-2 reps from failure allows you to increase volume and frequency.

-Zulu

 

[benchmonster]

"OK, I realise this is going to make me sound like a bit of a newbie, but instead of training to failure what do you do instead? "

Stay 1-2 reps short of failure. This is probably the best advice you'll ever hear and almost everyone here will disagree with me.

Going to failure puts your CNS under a great deal of stress. Your muscles will recuperate in 3-4 days but you'll take a week off to rest your CNS.

Going 1-2 reps from failure allows you to increase volume and frequency.

-Zulu

I completely agree with Zulu. I also agree with him that many on this board will say you must train to failure. They are wrong. Zulu is right.

B.

 

[JOKER47]

Would someone please define again the definition of failure? I lift until I can't lift one more rep for that set. I don't do forced or negatives. I can't imagine less than that being beneficial.

Is there another definition of "going to failure"?


Thanks,
Joker

 

[ZZuluZ]

By failure I'm referring too concentric failure.

'I can't imagine less than that being beneficial. "

Neither could I. Neither could most people. It's become such a present paradigm.

Thanks benchmonster. Been taking a lot of crap in the last few threads I've entered...thanks for the support

-Zulu

 

[JOKER47]

ZZuluZ...

I'm not sure if we are agreeing or not....

Are you saying going until you can't get one more rep out of a set is "bad", or you agree with the way I do it? Which IS the way I just described......??


Just clarifying,
Joker

 

[ZZuluZ]

Well, let's say you can 10 reps with 300 pounds on the bench. The last rep is very very slow and you gave it all you had. It's the last one in you. That's concentric failure.

I'd advocate doing 8-9 reps or perhaps even less. Really depends on your volume, effort, frequency, time constraints, etc..

-Zulu

 

[JOKER47]

Ok. I guess I feel that if that last rep, albeit very slow, is still in correct form, then I say do that rep as your last. (Rep 10) (That would be MY version of "to failure".)
But if you can't keep correct form, the rep BEFORE it was the last rep. (Rep 9) (Make sense?)


.02,
Joker

 

[ZZuluZ]

Then you're not going to failure, which is good.

-Zulu

 

[GUNS/Navarone]

One of the great things about bodybuilding is that many FACTS and MYTHS are basically THEORIES.

Oh yeah I am going to try and hit the upper chest with inclines and I am going to try and improve the outer head of my biceps.

Peace

Not to flame you at all, but what works for you and I MAY be different. Although if you follow the exact technique, what works for one should work for another??
SO yes I can indeed target my outer bicep very effectively if that is what I want.
I can hit my upper chest more so than my lower, if I work on it.
Inline db press and flys were all I really did, and my upper chest was very good.
Gave that up to concentrate on flat bench, upper chest suffered somewhat.
I know this debate has gone on here for some time, but if it works for someone and they now it dose, so be it.
All the best

 

[strong island]

Not to flame you at all, but what works for you and I MAY be different. Although if you follow the exact technique, what works for one should work for another??
SO yes I can indeed target my outer bicep very effectively if that is what I want.
I can hit my upper chest more so than my lower, if I work on it.
Inline db press and flys were all I really did, and my upper chest was very good.
Gave that up to concentrate on flat bench, upper chest suffered somewhat.
I know this debate has gone on here for some time, but if it works for someone and they now it dose, so be it.
All the best

Whats up bro...welcome to the board. I think you misunderstood.

I wasn't being sarcastic. I went to the gym and did just that...AND had a great fucking workout.