Touching a woman on the elbow, sexual harassment?

[alien amp pharm]

I dont even joke with women (even though they make all kind of sexual comments to/about me).

I've seen 2 guys seperate occasions get fired for joking around with the same women they've joked with for years.

Same types of comments and jokes with the same women...say it to them on the wrong day and bam your fired so fast your head will spin.

Men dont even get a chance to defend themselves either...what...he sexually harassed you??...bam you're fired.

That's because the law almost favors women without question. Just take a look at divorce/child custody, accusations of rape, and this topic of sexual harrassment.

And I disagree with what heatherrae wrote about "you have to know your woman before you say something" because women will turn on you in a heartbeat if they gain something from it.

A buddy of mine who is 30 years old was applying for an upgraded government position at his job. He was well qualified and had been preparing for it for a long time. Two very old, fat women whom he had worked with for years heard of this and filed a complaint against him (a ficticous one) and one of them ended up taking the job instead because in her own words "I want this job therefore I am taking it".

 

[Spanky11]

I am a buyer. So this dude was selling 300 grand worth of coolant to me.
I work for 2nd largest valve manuf in the world and I alone (we have 14 plants) spend A LOT a yr in product, so these guys need me more than I need them.
I take a lot of crap from suppliers and never cut anyone out unless they are crude (like ass grab guy).

Ok, understood.

But I am so glad that I no longer have to sell to women. In my experience, female purchasing managers are, by far, the biggest bitches to sell to.

 

[mrplunkey]

I still remember the medical supply industry back in the early/mid 1980's... These older, bigger female nurse managers who commanded large blocks of surgical supply purchases would corral these poor 20 and 30-something male medical sales reps at conventions and pretty much have their way with them.

I remember getting my ass grabbed in an elevator, turning around, and this really large nurse looking at me like "yeah, I did it. what are you going to do about it?".

 

[blueta2]

Ok, understood.

But I am so glad that I no longer have to sell to women. In my experience, female purchasing managers are, by far, the biggest bitches to sell to.

I don't think it's a matter of them being bitches, but female buyers do not get the same respect as male buyers so they have to be assertive.
Some male suppliers think they can talk to and treat you like garbage!
Being assertive is not being a bitch.
I had a supplier thrown out of here for sending me Valentines flowers then showing up and begging me to leave my boyfriend. I was shocked! I was ONLY EVER professional with him and when he was not taking NO for an answer, I had his butt kicked out and banned and his company was banned. He went to other plants and my Maintenance foreman and was calling me a Super Bitch!
I am amazing to work with...I share the wealth and am in no way EVER mean to any supplier. I never abuse my power here at work...ever!

 

[alien amp pharm]

I heard one time a woman tried to grab Mr Plunkey's ass, but all she got was a handfull of dildo instead.


ba-da-ding!

 

[Spanky11]

I don't think it's a matter of them being bitches, but female buyers do not get the same respect as male buyers so they have to be assertive.
Some male suppliers thing they can talk to and treat you like garbage!
Being assertive is not being a bitch.
I had a supplier thrown out of here for sending me Valentines flowers then showing up and begging me to leave my boyfriend. I was shocked! I was ONLY EVER professional with him and when he was not taking NO for an answer, I had his butt kicked out and banned and his company was banned. He went to other plants and my Maintenance foreman and was calling me a Super Bitch!
I am amazing to work with...I share the wealth and am in no way EVER mean to any supplier. I never abuse my power here at work...ever!

Perhaps that is true, being "assertive", but I always felt that they had to prove something, especially to a male seller.

Maybe they have a bad experience, I dunno.

But like I said, I'm glad there are none in my industry (financial services).

 

[blueta2]

I dont even joke with women (even though they make all kind of sexual comments to/about me).

I've seen 2 guys seperate occasions get fired for joking around with the same women they've joked with for years.

Same types of comments and jokes with the same women...say it to them on the wrong day and bam your fired so fast your head will spin.

Men dont even get a chance to defend themselves either...what...he sexually harassed you??...bam you're fired.

If a company fired someone due to a sexual harassment complaint, then that company does not have solid policies in place.
My company just adopted a new harassment policy (brought on by a complaint from me and others) and they would not fire someone, but simply suspend them. We also need to confront the person who may have done the harassment and try to work it out before the company will take any action.
When I started here (almost 7 yrs ago) I was told on many occasions "we hired you for your legs not your brains"
My ex boss called me into his office told me to close the door and said (this is NO BULL) " If you did not work for me would you get on your knees and give me a blow job"
This is a multi million $ company and here was this FUCKBAG asking me this shit. I complained and you know what they told me "Ignore him, he is prob. not getting sex from his wife"
YEP TRUE STORY!
SO damn right I went to HR and it took one solid year, 6 different lawyers and investigators and this company finally got a policy in place. The losers who abused their power with me, well they were suspended and two left out of shame.
Some women do abuse their power to complain, others to not.
Thanks for seeing the OTHER side!

 

[jd_uk]

Absolutely, a wrong hand shake can get you in trouble. My friend almost got canned because my friend and his friend were looking at a glamour type of magazine and making comments on which girl was the hottest. A woman that also worked there saw it and heard them and called it sexual harassment.

FFS.

 

[jd_uk]

Remember, their perception of your behavior/personality is YOUR responsibility.....

Doesn't make sense, but that's the way it is......

Nope it doesn't make sense. Ridiculous laws that have gone out of control. People are stupid and perceive a whole lot of things that aren't actually true.

 

[jd_uk]

well, you could.. if you don't that's your decision... just like i didn't.

wis FFS??? I don't speak internet code

I could...if i was actually bothered by it, but then i wouldn't get anywhere. There's no way that a woman doing it to a man would be viewed as stringently as a man doing it to a woman.