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Touching a woman on the elbow, sexual harassment?

Remember, their perception of your behavior/personality is YOUR responsibility.....

Doesn't make sense, but that's the way it is......
 
caligirl said:
speaking of "cupping" I was in a large dept store awhile back.. wearing a short skirt... but not too short.. mid thigh length, the little flowing cute kind... I was standing waiting for my former husband to get something... I felt a hand slide up my skirt and just cup my ass right below my crack... he kinda just nudged it right up in there... I truned around thinking it was my husband... NOPE... it was a little chinaman with a friggin foo manchu hanging off his chin, with the biggest smile on earth..... he was about 4 feet tall and so frail... OMG!!!!!!!!! scared the shit out of me.. made his day.... I didn't do anything, let him go, I can just imagine how much shit that old fart gets away with just by virtue of his age. He looked about 90.



HOLY...that is messed up! I would have grabbed the old fart and told him off.

I had a 70 yr old customer of mine (a very weathly man) grab my ass when I went out to dinner with him. I was shocked! I ended the night right there and stoped giving him my biz. He lost a 300,000 contract b/c of the grab to my ass. I have ZERO tolerance for this shit.
If someone touched my elbow, I could care less. My shoulder, who cares but if I am touched or addressed in any sexual unprofessional way, damn straight I will get the jerk busted!
 
jenscats5 said:
Remember, their perception of your behavior/personality is YOUR responsibility.....

Doesn't make sense, but that's the way it is......



Well, kinda. But you still have to tell them, "what you are doing is unwelcome" unless it's obvious shit grabbing tits/ass like bigmann said up above.

The courts have ruled differently for different jobs, interestingly. Example: If you work in a cop shop the harassment will have to be more extreme because of the nature of the job/environment. The courts take into account the entirety of each situation.

Also what act is performed....if some creep is just asking you out, he'd have to be doing it every single day over a period of time to be considered harrassment (hostile work environment). But something like grabbing an ass only needs to happen once.
 
jd_uk said:
FFS.

Threads like this piss me off a bit. Completely ok for women to touch a man like this but not for a man to a woman. Only the other night some woman who was walking past me in a public place 'stopped' to feel my arms and back. Imagine if i tried to claim she'd sexually harassed me...

I've studied law but bs laws like these aren't needed. Some things are just nature.

well, you could.. if you don't that's your decision... just like i didn't.

wis FFS??? I don't speak internet code
 
blueta2 said:
HOLY...that is messed up! I would have grabbed the old fart and told him off.

I had a 70 yr old customer of mine (a very weathly man) grab my ass when I went out to dinner with him. I was shocked! I ended the night right there and stoped giving him my biz. He lost a 300,000 contract b/c of the grab to my ass. I have ZERO tolerance for this shit.
If someone touched my elbow, I could care less. My shoulder, who cares but if I am touched or addressed in any sexual unprofessional way, damn straight I will get the jerk busted!

thats unreal.

Whilst I admire your ability to stand up for yourself in this situation, I certainly hope you sell enough in other accounts to make up for the 300k you turned away.... You would be probably put on warning in my company for that
 
I often encounter this when working with new clients. I was always taught to ask permission to touch somebody before you do it so now it's an automatic thing when I'm assessing someone at the gym. But often especially with female clients I touch them in what might be considered inappropriate places (hips, abs, etc) - good thing I'm not in the US or I probably would have been sued by now. Plus I think some of them like being touched in a way that their husbands probably never do anymore ;).
 
jd_uk said:
FFS.

Threads like this piss me off a bit. Completely ok for women to touch a man like this but not for a man to a woman. Only the other night some woman who was walking past me in a public place 'stopped' to feel my arms and back. Imagine if i tried to claim she'd sexually harassed me...

I've studied law but bs laws like these aren't needed. Some things are just nature.

yeah, you could probably take that court if you wanted to. i wonder what would happen. i mean i think the touching laws are the same for men as they are for women, right? aside from the fact that you cant touch a woman's chest.

but i think what happens is that women tend to press charges more often than men do. maybe for good reason too, since women feel more threatened by a man doing that.
 
p0ink said:
i love when ugly women think every guy wants to fuck/molest them. they are usually the ones who cause all sorts of problems.

seriously, go on any university campus and check out the girls majoring in women's studies. they are pretty much all man-hating lesbians or ugly, angry chicks with an axe to grind. those are the ones causing trouble.


you should see how bad it is at a state or government job.

I work for the state of Texas and people CONSTANTLY (men that is) getting getting screwed by some fat ugly cow screaming sexual harassment.

Uhh yeah right fat shit...if someone is going to sexually harness somebody wouldnt it be an attractive woman??
 
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