Time to lift steroid ban??

[Punschkrapfen]

http://www.smartmuscle.com/cgi-bin/ikon3/ikonboard.cgi?s=3c5bad216696ffff;act=ST;f=1;t=454

 

[Punschkrapfen]

Re: Re: Time to lift steroid ban??

Juice at your own risk, but don't expect the government to support you and make steroids legal to any jack schmoe 18 years or older just because they make him feel good, or because they enhance his performance. There's too many social implications and risks for that. And when the author of the article used the ancient argument that cigarettes and alcohol are just as bad and they are legal, he's saying that 3 wrongs make a right.

If, god forbid, there ARE risks associated with steroids...used properly OR not, then the government is well within its rights to keep the medical systems and insurance companies of the future from being overwhelmed just so people could get huge today.

no, the goverment has no right to control my life. if its for insurance purposes, then ok, i would pay higher premiums for my medical insurance but then i want that for people with really dangerous activities like skydiving or river rafting also. And of course all sedentary, smoking and drinking couch potatoes should also be included in this high-risk group.

since when does the govenment "support" something just by letting it be legal?

and, so what if i take something "just to make me feel good"? hell, what is life all about - don't we strive to feel good every day?

 

[rohadawg]

i hope the day comes soon when we can walk into wal-mart and get a 100 dbol with my 50 sudafed.

 

[plow-horse]

When I started using AS it was legal you could go to a doctor tell him you were looking to get bigger he gave a physical and setup a program for you. It was $30 first visit and $10 a shot after.

But people wanted to do much bigger cycles than the doctor would give. So you had high school kids doing 2 and 3 times what the doctor would give 22 plus year olds the youngest he would do. There was a high school football team in my town caught all but 3 players were on AS the parents were pissed it was in all the papers I am sure this was happening all over the country.

Most the first time cycles I see here are 2 to 5 times what was OK by the doctors then. So if we could go to the doctors again the same thing would happen all over again.

Just my 2 cents

 

[BreezeKeeper]

Re: Re: Re: Time to lift steroid ban??

no, the goverment has no right to control my life. if its for insurance purposes, then ok, i would pay higher premiums for my medical insurance but then i want that for people with really dangerous activities like skydiving or river rafting also. And of course all sedentary, smoking and drinking couch potatoes should also be included in this high-risk group.[/q]

I'm not sure where you got the idea that the government has no right to control your life. Are ideas true just because you or I say so? Some people might say Americans have no right to be here, but our military took care of that argument years ago. Doesn't it come down to who has the most force and knows how to wield it? Whether or not the government has a right to control your life, it does. And if it isn't, then something else usually is. All of your preferences were conditioned into you very early in life so all of the things you think you like aren't even your choice...they are either there because your influences wanted you to have them, or because you are rebelling against them. But what do people know about original thinking?

The government has a function to perform. When it fails to be open and honest about its activities, the result is mistrust and paranoia and you see we have plenty of that. But don't let yourself get caught in the ineffective activity of arguing who has and hasn't what rights because the facts tell a different story.

since when does the govenment "support" something just by letting it be legal?[/Q]

Support might not be the best description. You might use the term 'compliance'. In any case, when you allow something to happen, without opposing it, you are, in effect, supporting it by getting out of it's way. Do you really think that 'just legalizing it' is as simple as that? That you'll be able to just pick up the phone and order steroids and the rest of your life and the world will be the same? No way. As usual, we'll cope with the changes, but you can expect life would be VERY different. This place, for starters, would probably be gone in less than a week.

and, so what if i take something "just to make me feel good"? hell, what is life all about - don't we strive to feel good every day?

Let's not confuse 'feeling good' with 'avoiding pain'. There's a major difference in attitude. I've never known gear to change a person's attitude. Like taking any feel-good drug, it might appear the person's attitude has changed because he's gotten some relief from feeling small or weak, but inside he knows his feeling good is tied into juicing and that without it, he's back on some part of the small and weak heap. An insecure person on juice just forces his insecurity underground where it continues to grow in the dark...the longer you juice, the harder it is to come off and stay off if you ever want to, or find you have to.

As far as I know, there aren't many secure people taking juice.

Breezekeeper

 

[muscleup]

the whole reason for steroids being illegal in this country is for the fact that the government makes a shit load of money on the scripts these doctors write, and if the were legal there would be less money made for them and cheaper results for us...........plain and simple.