Those worried about overtraining are scared!!

[Abbaddon]

ahadpour28 and avatar its not that I said it was impossible I said that far too many people on this board are worried about it and use it as an excuse not to hit it hard. Now if you two want to post your workout and a pic I will post mine and we will see. I love it when guys come on here and think that they know all. I dont know all and I have been in the gym for 15 yrs. You two keep laughing and I will keep getting bigger. I dont say people should stay in the gym 3 hours a day I say they hit it as hard as they can and stop thinking about overtraining, they are using that as an excuse and that is what my common sense tells me. Have a good day and if you guys ever want to stop by Myrtle drop me a line and you can spot me with the 115 dumbbells for 6-8 on military.

Oh and ahadpour28 you think I made you laugh at this post your post on the anabolic board about what cycles you should be taking cause you have crohn's disease now that is a laugher. You ignorant idiot listen to your doctor and live a little longer, the lack of value you have in your own life to want to take any kind of drug your doc doesnt prescribe for you with that disease is true humor.

 

[liftah]

I agree with that comment about training while sore. I did that to bring my arms up to par with the rest of my body. I would thrash them down for a few days in a row, I'm talking like 30+ sets each day, and then be sore for next 5 days. But in the following week I would go easy, eat big and I would get huge gains. Now I do it about every 3rd week on my arms, I find its too draining to do anymore often than that. I know another guy who does that on his calves and they are probably one of his better bodyparts now.

 

[minion]

It's almost impossible to "overtrain" in the traditional sense while on JUICE!!!

However everyone isn't willing to take the risk associated with steriods.

For some on this board all you do is lift. For others here you lift and do martial arts, cross training, swimming, man whore football, soccer, whatever. So then it would be logical to assume that the latter group has an extra stress factor that should be included into the formula.

IMO write up a routine and follow it, if that dosn't work then change it up. Or shoot from the hip and work out when you feel like it. If you end up looking like "Fat Bastard" then that's on you. Deal with it, I'm not going to treat you any different if you look like Ron Coleman or Booker from Good Times.

 

[minion]

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Correction that's Superintendent Bookman.

 

[Avatar]

abbaddon are you natural or do you juice?

And when you make these statements about it being ok to do 30+ sets / muscle group or whatever are you saying that its fine for only people who are on AS, or ALL trainees, natural or not?

You post a pic of you at 18 or 19 y.o. and I'll post one of me. We'll see who was bigger and who could lift more.
Unfortunately I don't have 15 years of training under my belt. I would have had to start when I was 3.

 

[Abbaddon]

well avatar I am all natural and when I go with very high sets such as 30 its on a more of an isometrics day trying to use simply my body weight, ever seen a gymnasts build that is why. Now I understand what your saying but since you are just 18 you might come to the conclusion that you dont know it all and maybe you should listen. I never to proclaim that I know it all I dont know even a fraction of what there is to know about our lifestyle. My point to this thread is people use the overtraining thing as an excuse not to try as hard as they can or should. So many for so long on this board are worried about whether they are overtraining but you dont get the questions on how they can make it more intense. It was and is an opinion of mine that I voiced in a thread. Like it, dont like it I dont care. However we are not talking age here. We are talking the present and you wanting a pic of me from 12 years ago is just another example of an excuse. If you would like to compare we can compare now. I know that when I was your age and had only been in the gym for 3 years I tried to keep my opinions to myself as much as possible and just tried to learn. Now I still try to listen and learn as much as possible but I also give advice, in fact I get paid to do so. So before you knock my workouts maybe you should ask me why I do it that way you may learn a thing or two and if you do that with everyone you meet in this lifestyle maybe you wouldnt feel you need to compare yourself to me when I was 18 maybe you would want to compare yourself to me know.


By the way when I was 18 I was recovering from a clean break in my C-5 so congratulations you probably look better than I did in the neck brace.

 

[minion]

"By the way when I was 18 I was recovering from a clean break in my C-5 so congratulations you probably look better than I did in the neck brace."

Naw dude, you were just making excuses, and not being intense enough.

 

[Abbaddon]

lol thats good bro but actually I didnt loose all that much size while I was in the brace gained weight because I was able to eat so much and not do cardio. lol but the rehab workouts were more intense than anything I ever went through, they are what made me decide to change into this the working out lifestyle. Glad you made this comment though cause it gave me a lot of new ideas to change up in my workouts now. Thanks bro.

 

[tag166]

Any of you boys heard of dorian yates and read his book "The Warriors Story "read it.He basically says that when a muscle is pumped to its full potentional then it dosnt matter how many more sets you do it will not get any bigger,and he says he can achieve that pump in 1 all out set per exercise not including his warm ups,makes you think is it worth doing 20 sets per bodypart.

 

[Avatar]

well avatar I am all natural and when I go with very high sets such as 30 its on a more of an isometrics day trying to use simply my body weight, ever seen a gymnasts build that is why. Now I understand what your saying but since you are just 18 you might come to the conclusion that you dont know it all and maybe you should listen. I never to proclaim that I know it all I dont know even a fraction of what there is to know about our lifestyle. My point to this thread is people use the overtraining thing as an excuse not to try as hard as they can or should. So many for so long on this board are worried about whether they are overtraining but you dont get the questions on how they can make it more intense. It was and is an opinion of mine that I voiced in a thread. Like it, dont like it I dont care. However we are not talking age here. We are talking the present and you wanting a pic of me from 12 years ago is just another example of an excuse. If you would like to compare we can compare now. I know that when I was your age and had only been in the gym for 3 years I tried to keep my opinions to myself as much as possible and just tried to learn. Now I still try to listen and learn as much as possible but I also give advice, in fact I get paid to do so. So before you knock my workouts maybe you should ask me why I do it that way you may learn a thing or two and if you do that with everyone you meet in this lifestyle maybe you wouldnt feel you need to compare yourself to me when I was 18 maybe you would want to compare yourself to me know.


By the way when I was 18 I was recovering from a clean break in my C-5 so congratulations you probably look better than I did in the neck brace.

hahaha, wow you don't want to compare pics of you when you were 18-19 and training for 3 years but you will compare pics with me when you got 15 some years on me? just doesn't prove your methods of ultra high volume are any better than my methods. I could post a pic of Dorian Yates if you wanted. He's a firm believer in low volume.

I personally believe in hit style workouts to be superior to high volume. 6-8 sets for large muscle groups at the most but 3-4 sets would suffice. These are of course taken to complete failure.

I will agree with you that not trying for that extra rep because of fear of overtrain is bull. I believe in complete concentric failure.

I just think 30 sets or whatever for a muscle group is over kill. And who has time to spend hours in the gym anyways when you can get the same effect in like 40 min?