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Those worried about overtraining are scared!!

Belial- why not, not resting inbetween sets follows the Russian lifting method. It has been discovered that lifting this way forces your body to produce more GH. Plus it cuts you up, have you ever heard of Adam Achaletta(check spelling). He uses this method and weighs 210 pounds while pressing over 500 bench. Oh yea he also plays for the rams.
 
I was overtraining for a year, I was working myself until I had to drop my bench down to 50lbs or less, just to get a few more pumps in. I was doing this once a week, not everyday. I went from a 36 inch chest to a 37 inch chest. I have been training correctly now for 4 weeks, doing 9 sets of chest only working to failure for the LAST rep. I went from a 37 inch chest to a 38.5 inch chest. Can anyone explain to me why I got gains in 4 weeks that took me a year to achieve before? It doesn't even matter that I was eatting like shit before, I would have gained atleast 2 inchs. That only thing I can come up with is overtraining.

Besides all that, arn't the results what REALLY matter? Fuck, if you can do 1 set and get huge, isnt that all anyone cares about? People who don't know when they are overtraining are newbies and can't listen to their bodies because they have neglected them for so long that it lost all communication - thus overtraining and undertraining occurs because they just don't know what is the right time to quit. Their bodies won't tell them and they have to use common sense "Well, I can barely lift this rep - perhaps I shouldn't do another."
 
HighIntensity said:
Belial- why not, not resting inbetween sets follows the Russian lifting method. It has been discovered that lifting this way forces your body to produce more GH. Plus it cuts you up, have you ever heard of Adam Achaletta(check spelling). He uses this method and weighs 210 pounds while pressing over 500 bench. Oh yea he also plays for the rams.

Hey, there's no saying it can't be a great way to train. Let's not forget gear. lol.

Still, to make the next set worthwhile, your body's gotta recover (get the oxygen back to those cells, replenish their fuel (ATP, CP, etc.)) blah de blah. Yeah. Point being, if you're doing the next set before you've recovered, there's no way in hell your body will be able to put 100% of its energy into it. Therefore, you won't do as hard or as big a set as you'd like, and it might end up being a wasted set. Why not wait the minute and do a set that's twice as good?
 
Abbaddon said:
Now I am not saying that it doesnt happen, but there are so many posts with people being worried about whether or not they are overtraining or not. Guys here it is if the bodypart is still sore from the previous workout of that bodypart dont work it. I love the guys who are like well I did 25 sets for chest today is that overtraining. I train till the point that the muscles are completely done/blown/exhausted now there are workouts when it only takes 10 sets such as a very very heavy leg day and there are days when it takes up to 35 sets such as a moderate weight back day. I dont stop till the muscle is done now I prefer that it be in as few sets as possible for time purposes, but that is not always what the body wants.

I just see so many guys here worried about overtraining. Yet the nutrition board is almost empty. Take really good care of your nutrition and overtraining becomes far less likely. Get good rest and overtraining becomes far less likely. Overtraining is what 15 year old boys to when they bench press everyday. If you do 25 sets instead of 24 your arms will not loose an inch due to the dreaded overtraining.

Work out hard intense and often. Watch your nutrition very very carefully/ get at least 8 hours of sleep in a day and stretch your muscles out everyday. If your still sore dont work that bodypart that day. Listen to your body. Dont be so worried about the dreaded overtraining. If your so worried about that it seems that you may be undertraining.

Just my .02

Later

bwahahaha. Thanks I needed a good laugh today. I was feeling down. :D
 
great points here

like the quote from above............. "there is no over-traing......just under eating and recovering

thats true....... like belial said.......you can do incredible amounts of training........ on gear

but for the natural....... its harder........... you have to go at it scientifically

but i agree with everyone........ shut up about overtraining..............

3 things are required to grow

1........ stimulation (training)
2.........recooperation(back to where you were before the workout)
3.........growth(allow your body an extra day or two after soreness is gone to recover)

it just takes a little common sense and you will be ok
 
guys- that same pro who said there is no such thing as overtraining only undereating and whatever else... is also probably on 10 i.u. of GH a day, 1 gram of test a week etc...
overtraining can occur with even 7-8 sets a bodypart especially if the intensity is high. come on bros use common sense
 
ahadpour28 said:
Aabbadon - I reccomond you stop reading muscle mags.

I hear ya ahadpour. I just re-read this thread a second time today cause I needed another chuckle. Mission accomplished.
 
I don't see how it is possible to do more then 10 or so sets for most body parts, legs exempt. I do 7-10 sets for most body parts and my muscles are toasted after a workout. Forget about doing a shit load of sets that is stupid and very catabolic, unless you are on gear of course, just do a few high intensity sets and keep the weight and high and progressive and like he said get proper rest and eat right.
 
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