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Those CRAZY dosages aren't making sence...

Mr.Holland

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I was just reading some posts here on the board and i was thinking...

WHY DOES MORE THAN HALF OF THE PEOPLE ON EF ADVISE/USE SUCH CRAZY AMOUNTS OF GEAR????

guys are talking about 1 gram of test a week if it is nothing..
Others advising first timers to use eq + dbol + test + fina..etc..etc.

What the hell is wrong with these people????
i dont understand..
 
Simply put, because alot of us use these same doses. However I would never advise a newbie to use, d-bol (or any oral), tren, insulin etc. Typical newbie cycles should be 200-250mg test/200mg deca, 400 mg test or 400 mg eq. Actually I worked with a friend of mine who didn't want to start on test, so we worked up a pretty mild cycle that worked very well. 300 mg of deca for 10 weeks (600 first week), with one proviron a day. 4 weeks after his post cycle recovery he was 12 ibs heavier, with 4% less bodyfat, and was benching with two more plates for the same # of reps. Overall, he kept about 20 ibs of muscle, had less bodyfat and was stronger. Of course now he is on prop/tren/insulin/liquidex (ahh cheap but effective).
 
I was always an advocate of loww doses for 10-12 weeks until my last cycle for my contest prep.....was up to about 3 grams a week with lots of GH and I've completely changed my physique.....
 
gilly6993 said:
I was always an advocate of loww doses for 10-12 weeks until my last cycle for my contest prep.....was up to about 3 grams a week with lots of GH and I've completely changed my physique.....

Okay, but you are already an 'advanced' bb and user...
You know what you are doing...

But there are lots of people on this board who are using and advising insane cycles. And when you read more you see that its just their 2nd or 3rd cycle.. or they are a first timer serious amounts of gear.
Im no expert, but from what i've experienced you dont need those amounts.
 
very true. but nowadays, bodybuilders wanna grow now and fast!

forget putting a few years of hard work.. they want it in 6 months.
i dont blame them.
 
The answer is simple. Most of the "experts" really don't know what they're doing. They don't know how to train and they don't know how to make the most of their cycles. But they're real good at doing lots of drugs! And THAT, is what (supposedly) makes them experts.

The ever increasing dosages become so familiar, so commonplace, so comfortable, that a cavalier attitude is developed. In an effort to convince themselves that there's nothing to fear they encourage newbies to do the same thing. It's really quite contemptable, but you can't blame them. For the most part, they're too stupid to realize how stupid they are.

You often see comparisons to what he "pros" use when in fact, they have no idea what the pros use. People defend insulin use because that's what makes the pros today so much bigger than the guys from the 60's and 70's. Meanwhile you have kids using insulin who are 185 pounds with 14% fat. After all, t's what the pros do

People destroy their thyroid because they wanted to look good on the beach for a month. It's beyond absurd.

Nobody here is a pro and only a handful compete. But the mentality is; the pros today are bigger, they take more gear, so more gear is the way to get bigger. Simple.

The truth of the matter is, nobody needs more than a gram a week. You can get HUGE on a gram a week. But just taking more drugs is easier.

And to some, they can never be big enough. Their goal is not to have a beautiful body -- you know, the kind that "men admire and women desire." They want to be a freak -- an oddity. Something that attracts attention. They also feel a bizarre sense of pride that they're willing to take insane dosages. It's sad really. There must be something tragically absent from a persons life if their main objective is to take up more space. And misery wants company. And THAT is why you see the recommened dosages that you do.



There...I said it.
 
nelson hits it right on the money yet again.

say NELSON.....

if you were to run a 10 week cycle and you had all the primos/deca/sustanon/anapolan/provirons at hand, how would you design it?

thanks bro
 
I dont see anything wrong with a newbie using dbol for a 1st cycle to kickstart it as long as it is in safe doseages. I usually recommend the following almost always to newbies, unless they have certain compunds already bought to work with.

Wk 1-3
Dbol 25mgs/day
Test 250/wk
EQ 400/wk

wk4-8
Test: 250/wk
EQ: 400/wk

or this as another great newbie or anybody cycle

wk 1-8
EQ: 400/wk
Anavar: 35mg/day

If you think that these are insane dosages then well I dont know what to tell you. I think it is better and SAFER to run test 250 with EQ 400/wk, than to run test alone at 500mgs/wk.

Mavy
 
yes you said it Nelson..
totally agree

All im doing now is 250mg Sust (came down from 500mg) and im growing as a mofo!!

Only thing i regret is that i didnt have some Nolva at hand.. Now i need it and i cant get any. Any my nipples are puffy..
But i dont regret that i didnt add the tren, which wanted the do in the first place.. and i dont regret that i didnt add anything else..

Okay im eating my guts out... but thats part of being a BB, imo.
 
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