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The ketogenic diet explained for beginners

semper03

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A great read for those of you interested in the keto diet program but don't know where or how to start and implement into your daily routine. I enjoyed it, hope you do too!

What would you consider to be the perfect bodybuilding diet? If such a thing existed it would meet the following criteria:

Allow you to build muscle without accumulating fat when bulking. You'd stay lean all year round.
Allow you to lose fat without losing muscle when cutting.
Induce an increase in serum anabolic hormones naturally (without supplements).
What would it mean to you and your bodybuilding goals if this diet was not something that only existed in fairytales, but was available to you right now!

You may have heard of this strategy before, but dismissed it. I advise you to keep an open mind and test it for yourself, many others including Hugo Rivera have tried it with amazing results.

Origins And Method
This diet did not originate with me of course. However, because of the massive impact it had on my results, I feel compelled to share it with as many people as possible. I would like to credit the following people for their wisdom before I go any further:

Dr. Mauro Di Pasquale
Anthony Colpo
Gary Taubes
Dr. Michael Eades
Dr. Robert Atkins
Dr. Jeff Volek
So what is this diet? It's a Cyclical Ketogenic Diet, or CKD for short. CKD basically means that you cycle periods of low carb, high protein, and high fat with periods of high carb, high protein, and low fat.

The majority of time you will be consuming a low carb diet, with a period set aside each week for carbing-up. This isn't for the fun of it; there are real scientific reasons for this, reasons with exciting implications for the bodybuilder.

Increasing Anabolic Hormones
A diet that maximizes serum levels of growth promoting hormones is a dream come true. Specifically we're talking about:

Testosterone
Growth Hormone
IGF-1 (Insulin-like growth factor 1)
I'm sure that all sounds good to you. So how do you actually implement a Cyclical Ketogenic Diet?

For most of the time you will be consuming a high fat, high protein, low carb diet. This is interspersed with smaller periods of high carb, high protein, low fat nutrition. There are variations on the CKD but the standard (and my favorite) way is to implement it in the following way:

5-6 days of low carb.
1-2 days of high carb.
This gives a manageable and sociable weekly cycle where you carb up over the weekend and return to your low-carb diet during the week.

Please note: Depending on how intense you train, some people may find that their gym performance deteriorates towards the end of the low-carb phase. In this case, it is highly recommended that you implement a mid-week carb-spike to replenish your muscle glycogen stores by having another high-carb, high-protein, low-fat day on a Tuesday or Wednesday.

The Low-Carb Advantage
When you keep your carbs sufficiently low, you body switches to a fat metabolism; this is called the 'Metabolic Switch'. Switching from a carbohydrate to a fat metabolism has some real advantages for the bodybuilder:

Increased Lipolysis (breakdown of fat)
Decreased Lipogenesis (accumulation of body fat)
This metabolic switch usually takes around 3 days to take full effect. Synthesizing the correct enzymes in sufficient quantities to become a fat-burner takes a little time. This is why some new comers to low carb diets can feel foggy at the beginning.

Please do not confuse this short period for the whole diet; your energy will be back up in no time, and for some people, better than ever!

The Role Of Insulin
Some of you may have noted that I left out an important anabolic hormone in the above list - Insulin.

So when does our body produce insulin? Insulin is secreted by our pancreas primarily in response to the carbohydrates in our diet. Since we are keeping carbs low, our insulin levels will also be low. Does this mean we miss out? Not at all.

This is where the carb-up period comes in. Once a week you should load up on carbs and let your insulin levels spike. Insulin will shuttle amino acids into the muscle tissue, but we also refill our depleted muscle glycogen stores during this time.

Our muscles are like tanks for glycogen. They fill up and empty again when we workout. Unfortunately when we eat too many carbs these tanks become satiated. Some glycogen is then stored in the liver and any excess is converted to triglyceride and stored as fat. This is where traditional high-carb diets can let us down. So why fill them at all?

Muscle glycogen means better performance in the gym. We load up on it and fill our tanks. By the end of our low-carb period we have once again emptied the tanks and we repeat the cycle over again.

Growth Hormone & Insulin
These 2 hormones have a strange relationship. It seems that when one is in abundance, the other is nowhere to be found. We therefore do not want chronically elevated insulin levels as:

Our growth hormone production will be blunted
We may overspill our glycogen tanks and start to lay down fat (lipogenesis)
Fat & Testosterone
Testosterone and dietary fat have a positive correlation; i.e. diets higher in fat and dietary cholesterol lead to higher concentrations of circulating testosterone.1 We all know how important this hormone is to maximizing our lean muscle gains. You could be throwing away potential gains by consuming a low-fat diet, that goes for the ladies too.2

How Many Carbs Is Low-Carb?
In order to become a 'fat-burner', you should consume around 60 grams or less of net carbohydrate per day (total carbs minus fiber). However, in order to determine just how many carbs you personally should be consuming, a little trial and error is necessary.

The general rule is this:

Eat the smallest amount of carbs it takes to allow maximum output in the gym.

This will vary from person to person. Please bear in mind that fat will become your main source of energy and large quantities of carbs are unnecessary.

If you are unsure, try beginning at 30 grams and adjust as necessary.

What About Post-Workout Carbs?
Remember, our goal is to keep insulin low and growth hormone elevated for most of the week. Post-workout carbohydrates will therefore work against you here.

Apart from blunting growth hormone levels, carbohydrates may do nothing to increase protein synthesis in the post-workout period beyond that which protein can do by itself 3. Take the following study for example:

The following study took place in the Netherlands, the subjects being healthy young men. The study split the men into 3 groups, each ingesting different combinations of protein & carbohydrates. Therefore the only variable was the level of carbohydrate.

Each group performed resistance training for 60 minutes and was given either protein or a combination of protein and carbohydrate each hour for 6 hours after training. The amount of protein for all the groups was 0.3g per kg of bodyweight. The protein and carbs varied as follows:

Group 1 - Just protein, no carbs
Group 2 - Protein with 0.15 g per kg of body weight of carbohydrate
Group 3 - Protein with 0.6 g per kg of body weight of carbohydrate

Protein synthesis rates were then measured for 6 hours after training. The results?

The intake of protein after training increases protein synthesis.
The addition of carbohydrate (whether in small or large amounts) to this protein did not further increase protein synthesis at all.
This is good news for those interested in or currently living a cyclical ketogenic lifestyle.

What To Eat
Any anabolic lifestyle is only as good as it is practical to actually live.

Perhaps you think a low-carb diet is too restrictive. Maybe you've even tried something like this before and failed because you felt that there wasn't a wide enough variety of food. This is understandable.

In order to experience the awesome benefits of this diet and also make it enjoyable, I am continually searching for recipes and concocting a few of my own. To show you just how tasty and easy it is to live this lifestyle here's a typical 1-day eating plan:

BREAKFAST:
Bacon
Whole Eggs Scrambled

MID MORNING:
Low-carb wrap filled with: Tuna, Mayo, Cheese
(Low-carb tortillas can be bought in some stores and online)

LUNCH:
Caesar Salad
(With full fat sauce, no croutons)

MAIN MEAL:
Taco Salad
Post-Workout Shake
Low or no carbs.

LATE SNACK:
Protein Bar

Low Carb Concerns
When the light of science shines on the concerns some people have about low carb diets, they vanish without a trace.

Sluggish Gym performance
Once your body gets fully fat-adapted (3-14 days) this isn't a problem. Also, you fill you glycogen stores once or twice per week.

Saturated Fat and Cholesterol
Is a high fat/low carb diet increasing your risk of cardiovascular disease? Not on your life! This belief is based on an unproven hypothesis from the 1950's. The surprising truth is that low carb/high-fat diets consistently outperform all others in improving lipid profiles. Typically, HDL (good) cholesterol rises, LDL (bad) cholesterol drops and triglycerides plummit, producing a much reduced risk of heart disease. 4 5

Brain Fog
This does not happen to everyone though some experience it only in the initial 'metabolic switch' period. A fat metabolism requires different enzymes to function than a carbohydrate one. Synthesizing the correct enzymes in sufficient quantities to become a fat-burner takes a little time, stick it out.

Conclusion
So there's no reason to not give this a go. Prepare for some initial water weight loss at the beginning, you'll put it back on every carb-up phase.

This could be the step you've been waiting for. Take your game to the next level!

Mark McManus
 
Hi Semper.

As a nutritionist I find this area of dieting increasingly facinating. I'm considering giving the Keto a run myself, but I'll intend to keep the fats down a bit lower than the bacon and full-fat mayo suggestions.
If anyone has done this type of diet before with success or not, I'd be very interested to hear about it. How long do guys generally run a Keto diet for? Is it just for a short cutting phase of a few weeks, or do some lifters go with it for much longer?

Cheers for the post brother.

Craig
 
Hey what's up man. Keto can be ran for a few months orbit can turn into a lifetime diet. The concept of it is to convert your body from carbs to fats. The first two week are hell since you cut all carbs out but as you go on you slowly ass them back in. By week 4 you can have a lot of different foods. The menus for keto are pretty big. Download the Atkins app and check out the recipes they have on there. In my other thread I am keeping my own log of keto. I stopped working out for a few months and got fat and lazy. I include pics and explained how I felt from week to week. You drop fat really fast! They key though is to SLOWLY introduce carbs back in. If you don't your body will rebound and you will gain a lot of weight back in one night. I've been in my keto for going on 5 weeks and I love it know. It's hard not to go crazy but it's worth it. I'm planning on staying on for life. Maintaining around 20-30% dv carb intake.
 
I tell u what , that shits tuff ! Especially cause im used to eating carbs...lol beans,rice and tortillas !
I am truly a fat guy at heart..
Dropping all the carbs and trying to stay within 100grams has made me short tempered and grouchy as all get out ! But i am 6 days into it .
Dropped 6 pounds quick but im guessin thats mostly water weight.
Ive also noticed in the gym my muscles dont feel as pumped.
When do u plan a cheat meal or do u ? Cause damn i could sure go for some homemade flour tortillas with butter to go along with some fat guy chorizo and eggs.. Oh and some mexican sweet bread !

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I tell u what , that shits tuff ! Especially cause im used to eating carbs...lol beans,rice and tortillas !
I am truly a fat guy at heart..
Dropping all the carbs and trying to stay within 100grams has made me short tempered and grouchy as all get out ! But i am 6 days into it .
Dropped 6 pounds quick but im guessin thats mostly water weight.
Ive also noticed in the gym my muscles dont feel as pumped.
When do u plan a cheat meal or do u ? Cause damn i could sure go for some homemade flour tortillas with butter to go along with some fat guy chorizo and eggs.. Oh and some mexican sweet bread !

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I hear ya man, I love eating pasta and bread but had to give it all up. Sad fucking day lol my I'm tryin to log my progress in a different thread but I keep forgetting to update it lol my first two weeks was the hardest since you can have 0 carbs except for net that come from fiber. I was peeing a lot, so hungry and grouchy all the time with a very short fuse cause of it. After those two weeks it got really easy. This is my second month on it and its just a part of my life now.

As for cheat meals. I break down every now and then when my body screams for something other than tuna, chicken or fish. Listen to to your body. However you can't have cheats for the first month. I had to start over cause of that. I had lost 7lbs my first week and that weekend I was so hungry I are some pizza and my body reverted using all those carbs and I gained it all back plus a pound. I was pissed. Now when I have a cheat meal I just eat some Chinese noodles or a burger with only half the bottom bun. Just enough carbs that I know I'm cheating and it fills me up but not enough to throw my diet. Everything in moderation.

It's tough man.
 
Well i hope im doing it right cause i am getting in about 100 grams of carbs in a day.
Lol your not eating any !
What about cheese and cottage cheese or avocados ?

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Well i hope im doing it right cause i am getting in about 100 grams of carbs in a day.
Lol your not eating any !
What about cheese and cottage cheese or avocados ?

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I'm eating 20% of my daily value now but when i started I didn't eat any.

Cheese doesn't have any carbs.

When it comes to veggies like avocado, celery, onions and shit like that net carbs come into play.
If celery has 7G carbs and 4 are from fiber and 2 are from sugar then the total net carbs equal 1G.
 
Alright kool ! Cause i eat alot of onions and jalepenos.

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Yea I eat a shit ton of tomatoes, mushrooms and avocado. I have a calculator that breaks down the net carbs from actual carbs and portions it for me so it makes it easier when I enter in into my fitness pal.
 
Well semper i got good news and not so good news . First the good news...diets been good. Even this morning . I find that im less bloated and dont have alot gas. Did eat a shit ton of protein this morning. Eggs,corizo,jalepenos,onions,cheese, and topped of with lousiana hot links...lol good shit !
The bad news is ol lady got tickets for an aniversay party at our local micro brewery this afternoon.. Need i say more ? Any suggestions?

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Lol ! Damn Semper ! I was hoping to here from u already but its all good !
Im about an hour in at this beer fest and feeling good already...lol get at me when u get a chance

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Lol ! Damn Semper ! I was hoping to here from u already but its all good !
Im about an hour in at this beer fest and feeling good already...lol get at me when u get a chance

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Sorry man I'm at work. There's really nothing I can say about the brew man cause its bad stuff all the way through. Here's a link for some carb comparison on beers.

http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art14302.asp
 
Lol ! I dont even want to look at the link cause im having sch a good time but good lookin out !

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Lol ! I dont even want to look at the link cause im having sch a good time but good lookin out !

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I hear ya man, me and the girl went out with some friends to Davis and we had a lot of brews and chews lol I gained 3 lbs lol I'm gonna have to hit gyn hard and get rid of it.
 
Dsmn Semper ! Im syper super fykkef upp right now just trying to get it together .
Call me 714 209 3758
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Thanls for all your help....

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Semper, what's the difference between a re feed and a cheat meal ? I've seen on other threads where guys eat low carb ( under 35 ) on the weekdays then eat whatever they want for 24-36 hours on the weekends. After the initial 2 weeks of course. Also for the first 2 weeks only zero carbs? Thanks for the help bro!!!
 
Semper, what's the difference between a re feed and a cheat meal ? !

Refeed is a controlled process done during a proper Bodyopus/evolutionary, while a cheat meal is generally done by someone who's on a torturous high-carb/high-protein diet suffering from cravings because of insulin spikes - they stuff their face with food at 2am. ;) Joking aside, cheat meals are only needed because most guys tend to diet the wrong way to begin with. On a proper CKD, after the 1st 2 week you shouldn't get cravings.

I've seen on other threads where guys eat low carb ( under 35 ) on the weekdays then eat whatever they want for 24-36 hours on the weekends. After the initial 2 weeks of course. Also for the first 2 weeks only zero carbs? Thanks for the help bro!!

You can't eat "whatever" you want perse, you still have to control what you eat so you don't have spillover. For the first 2 weeks, extend ketoginic phase to 6/1 and you'll be fine.
 
Sorry it took so long to reply. Been busy a work.

Wolfpak pretty much answered your question. For the under 35G sounds like you're referring to a carb back load.

Here is the basics on how to get started if you think this is for you.

To prime your body for this new eating style and lifestyle honestly you must go extremely low carbs for 10 days – Kiefer prescribes 30g or less each day. That’s right 10 days of 30g carbs or less, and trust me on this, it’s the hardest part of this whole program. We are only talking 10 days, which anyone can struggle through if they are serious about training and making changes. Protein intake is pretty standard 1g per pound – so if you are 200lbs eat 200g of protein per day. You can also eat as much fat as you like; now keep in mind proper judgment on this. Things like cheese, avocados, bacon, whole eggs, coconut oil and the list goes on and on. The restrictions on this program are limited, it’s based heavily on how you look in the mirror and feel from day to day.

On the 10th day of your low carb intake after you train that evening you can, as they say “carb up”. Your body will be ready to take in some serious carbs, and this is where the fun starts.

Consume around 1g of carbs per pound of bodyweight so if you weight 200lbs eat 200g of carbs or a little more if your body can handle it. The main thing to remember here is these are high-glycemic foods, ice cream, cup cakes, cookies, fries, pizza and so on. You will probably go to sleep full and bloated feeling happy and fat, upon waking you will probably find yourself looking lean and ripped.

Now you are in the world of carb back loading, from here on out, on all days you strength train (lift heavy weight) you can carb backload. On days you don’t strength train and just do cardio or have rest days eat as you would during the 1st 10 days with 30g of carbs of less just eating proteins and fats.

That in a nutshell is the basics of carb back loading and how it’s done.
 
Extremely helpful..thanks for the info. It seems exponentially more manageable now. 2 more questions though, should I judge results off the mirror or scale, and should I buy some keto sticks just to make sure I'm in ketosis? Thanks Again!!!!
 
Extremely helpful..thanks for the info. It seems exponentially more manageable now. 2 more questions though, should I judge results off the mirror or scale, and should I buy some keto sticks just to make sure I'm in ketosis? Thanks Again!!!!

You can judge off if both. The only way you can use the mirror though is if you take a pic as soon as you wake up in day 1 then take progress pics every 2 weeks. I couldn't believe my results but I could only see them by comparing before and after pics.

Always weigh yourself in the AM after peeing before eating or drinking anything. The scale is going to drop! I made a small keto log with pics a while back if you wanna take a look. I thinks it's called "my first keto log" or something close to that.

This is not easy at all man, most people fail in the first two weeks because you just have no energy, no will to get out of bed nothing. I had to fight it everyday and kept it up for 3 months or so.
 
Am I correct in assuming that after the first couple of weeks energy levels resume back to normalcy?

Yes. Once your body makes the cellular changes to burn fat instead of carbs for energy, your body will feel better. It's just the transformation phase of it all that's killer.

Expect a few things. Lethargy, constant hunger and mass loss. Oh and ALWAYS having to take a piss lol
 
Am I correct in assuming that after the first couple of weeks energy levels resume back to normalcy?

The first 2 weeks your body is going through a metabolic shift; from burning carbs for energy to burning fat for energy. After you make the metabolic shift, you feel like a new person and have no issues with energy levels. :)
 
Cool, I'm definitely feeling a little lethargic today but, it's not unmanageable. I have a weird taste in my mouth too. Looking forward to getting these first 2 weeks done.
 
Cool, I'm definitely feeling a little lethargic today but, it's not unmanageable. I have a weird taste in my mouth too. Looking forward to getting these first 2 weeks done.

It's just gonna keep getting worse lol but the good news is its gonna get a lot better. Keep us posted with your progress and if you have any questions let me know.
 
Cool, I'm definitely feeling a little lethargic today but, it's not unmanageable. I have a weird taste in my mouth too. Looking forward to getting these first 2 weeks done.

Yup, those are ketones my friend, first phase of ketosis is that bad breath/smell. :)
 
Ok so it seems like I'm on my way to ketosis. I can tell I have to up my fats because my proteins are still slightly higher but, I dont want to just go crazy w/calories at the same time. Im glad its headed in the right direction. Thanks for the help again !!!
 
Any way of knowing how long it takes to drop just a couple % BF once the body is definitely in ketosis or does it vary person to person. I'm 6' @ 200 lbs and powerlift 3 days a week and do accessories on the other days with sprint interval training.
 
Any way of knowing how long it takes to drop just a couple % BF once the body is definitely in ketosis or does it vary person to person. I'm 6' @ 200 lbs and powerlift 3 days a week and do accessories on the other days with sprint interval training.

It's going to vary from person to person as how strict the run their diet. I dropped from 14 to 10 in two months.

One big thing I caution all people using a keto diet is when you add carbs back in near stage 3 and 4 do it very very gradually. Don't just jump into a big ass bowl of pasta and pizza or you'll have a carb rebound. This happened to me the first time I used this diet and had to start from day one again. Going through hell for the second time wasn't much fun.

Can one " jump start" entering ketosis by using igf and gw 501516?

I'm actually not a SARM guy so I couldn't tell you how they would affect your ketosis. I just started an ostarine only cycle just to see how well this stuff works stand alone but once again I'm not in Ketosis.
 
Can one " jump start" entering ketosis by using igf and gw 501516?

Unlikely, if anything you'll put your body out of whack with this formula. I've tested insulin for a ketogenic jump, but it's not something I'd recommend (dangerous).
 
Unlikely, if anything you'll put your body out of whack with this formula. I've tested insulin for a ketogenic jump, but it's not something I'd recommend (dangerous).

First couple days I've used igf now with only bcaas. Felt funny the first 2 days but now I feel like I don't need any carbs all day. I still eat a ton of green veggies but I don't count those
 
First couple days I've used igf now with only bcaas. Felt funny the first 2 days but now I feel like I don't need any carbs all day. I still eat a ton of green veggies but I don't count those

IGF-1 can play with your blood sugar levels, which can be very helpful and, at the same time, dangerous on a low-carb diet (even deadly if done wrong or poor quality is use); overall, I wouldn't suggest to most dieters without using a glucose meter very frequently to measure blood sugar levels.
 
IGF-1 can play with your blood sugar levels, which can be very helpful and, at the same time, dangerous on a low-carb diet (even deadly if done wrong or poor quality is use); overall, I wouldn't suggest to most dieters without using a glucose meter very frequently to measure blood sugar levels.

Ok thx for the reply wolf, I'd have to say my energy seems through the roof for not having any carbs in my system compared to usual. I think ill go pickup a glucose meter today :)
 
I'm on day 3 and I feel like I have more energy than yesterday. I miscounted carbs yesterday though and ended up w/ 38 but, I still feel like my body is transitioning to burning fat for energy. i feel like I'm looking a little flat though but less bloated. Thanks man.
 
Semper, I should be counting carbs, proteins, and fats right buddy? Not stressing about calorie intake ?

You still need to watch your cals too. I keep mine around 2750 ok ketosis. Every meal you have should be nothing but tuna, cheese, chicken,
Beef, You'll know you're in ketosis when you start pissing non stop. Take progress pics or you won't see Any changes.
 
I'm on day 3 and I feel like I have more energy than yesterday. I miscounted carbs yesterday though and ended up w/ 38 but, I still feel like my body is transitioning to burning fat for energy. i feel like I'm looking a little flat though but less bloated. Thanks man.

I'm on day 6 and I feel like I could run a god damn marathon. In also taking igf whic h wveryone says needs carbs, but I'm doing it near careless and feeling fantastic
 
Semper, I should be counting carbs, proteins, and fats right buddy? Not stressing about calorie intake ?

You'll still need to go a bit below BMR (CBMR) if you're cutting and use BBMR if you're bulking. Some guys eat way too much and end up not losing a thing; keep in mind, after the metabolic shift, you won't be hungry.:evil:
 
You'll still need to go a bit below BMR (CBMR) if you're cutting and use BBMR if you're bulking. Some guys eat way too much and end up not losing a thing; keep in mind, after the metabolic shift, you won't be hungry.:evil:

This is what I'm noticing 1 week in. I have no appetite I just force myself to eat. Once I start eating I notice yah I do have room to put some down but the initial hunger pangs are non existent.
 
This if the 6th day for me and I'm not near as hungry as I was the first 4 and not craving anything at all really. My wife is picking up some keto stix today so I'll test my self later. I'm def tired and my stomach is cramped a lot but other than that I think I'm doing good. I think I am leaning out a little bit already too because I can see the outline of abs in the late afternoon where I used to only see abs in the am. My muscles are def not as full though and I might have lost some vascularity. This is such an awesome thread and helpful as fuck too. Really appreciate the advice and every one chiming in.
 
This if the 6th day for me and I'm not near as hungry as I was the first 4 and not craving anything at all really. My wife is picking up some keto stix today so I'll test my self later. I'm def tired and my stomach is cramped a lot but other than that I think I'm doing good. I think I am leaning out a little bit already too because I can see the outline of abs in the late afternoon where I used to only see abs in the am. My muscles are def not as full though and I might have lost some vascularity. This is such an awesome thread and helpful as fuck too. Really appreciate the advice and every one chiming in.

Glycogen is gone from the muscles, that's why you appear 'flat'. You should increase your liquid intake (water) and add psyllium husk daily.
 
Glycogen is gone from the muscles, that's why you appear 'flat'. You should increase your liquid intake (water) and add psyllium husk daily.

I'm on like day 7 and having ups and downs with my mood. Doesn't help I'm on masteron and winny but will the irritability leave soon? My appetite is gone which is nice because before I was always so hungry and the more i ate the more I ate, I can find energy to gym but the rest of the day is ups and downs. I'd say carbs have been around 50 or less per day for a week now, but I am very active so I think they are low enough
 
Thanks Alpha, I picked up some keto stix today and the reading was between trace amounts to moderate. Is that where I should be for day 8 or should I be reading higher than that. Lost 2 lbs also.
 
I'm on like day 7 and having ups and downs with my mood. Doesn't help I'm on masteron and winny but will the irritability leave soon? My appetite is gone which is nice because before I was always so hungry and the more i ate the more I ate, I can find energy to gym but the rest of the day is ups and downs. I'd say carbs have been around 50 or less per day for a week now, but I am very active so I think they are low enough

Your carbs are still too high for ketosis. The first 10 days you need to go for broke. After that you will slowly get used to it. As you enter phase 3 and 4 you can eat carbs again just in very little amounts and have to reintroduce then slow so you do not rebound and hex the whole damn thing.
 
Hey guys, I've been testing my levels on keto sticks for 4 days now and for the past 3 days it was showing that I was definitely in ketosis. I was going back and forth between small and moderate levels. This morning for some reason it gave me a negative reading and I haven't gone over 30 carbs a day. Should I be concerned with that reading or is that common ? I hope it doesn't mean that I need to start over. I'm going white water rafting this weekend for a bachelor party and I was looking forward to my carb up even though I'm not really craving anything. Thanks for the help!!!
 
Hey guys, I've been testing my levels on keto sticks for 4 days now and for the past 3 days it was showing that I was definitely in ketosis. I was going back and forth between small and moderate levels. This morning for some reason it gave me a negative reading and I haven't gone over 30 carbs a day. Should I be concerned with that reading or is that common ? I hope it doesn't mean that I need to start over. I'm going white water rafting this weekend for a bachelor party and I was looking forward to my carb up even though I'm not really craving anything. Thanks for the help!!!

How long have you been on the keto diet?
 
This Saturday will be 2 weeks. I've been doing a good job of keeping my carbs below 30 and getting enough fat. For some reason today my keto sticks gave me a negative reading in the morning but later it did show trace amounts ketones. I was kind of nervous about it as I have been sticking to the diet reasonably well. Should I still have my carb up this weekend or do you think I should just hold off ? I'm hoping tomorrow I'll be back in ketosis.
 
This Saturday will be 2 weeks. I've been doing a good job of keeping my carbs below 30 and getting enough fat. For some reason today my keto sticks gave me a negative reading in the morning but later it did show trace amounts ketones. I was kind of nervous about it as I have been sticking to the diet reasonably well. Should I still have my carb up this weekend or do you think I should just hold off ? I'm hoping tomorrow I'll be back in ketosis.

Keto sticks can show negative at times, don't sweat it too much.

You should do a 2 day supercompensation/refeed this sat/sun to refill leptin levels and get your metabolic rate humming. Follow a standard bodyopus/evo refeed.
 
Thanks Wolf, after the re feed should I expect to put on some weight. I've lost about 2.5 lbs so far which I'm guessing is water even though I'm drinking almost 2 gallons a day now. Also do you think I should have lost more than that so far after being almost 2 weeks in to low carb ?
 
Thanks Wolf, after the re feed should I expect to put on some weight. I've lost about 2.5 lbs so far which I'm guessing is water even though I'm drinking almost 2 gallons a day now. Also do you think I should have lost more than that so far after being almost 2 weeks in to low carb ?

You'll put on weight during the refeed, it's going to be a bit of muscle (around 0.25 lbs +/-) and a lot of water weight - each gram of carbs pulls in 2 grams of water (ballpark). That's going to go away a few days after you go back to your ketogenic phase.

2.5lbs of fat is a lot of weight my friend. :) Give it time, the first few weeks aren't a deciding factor - it's going to take some time for you to really get into the groove of CKD.
 
Thanks bro, I started the carb up tonight and I'll go until Sat night for just a little over 24 hours because I work Sunday and I want my body to be in the rhythm of going back into ketosis on Sundays and because I weigh in on fridays. I def feel better after getting some real food in my system. My keto sticks were showing more mg/dl after eating carbs for some reason but, I'm ok with it. I think the next round won't be as taxing only having to go 1 week instead of 2. I was really weak the last 2 days of eating less than 15 carbs a day. Thanks for all the help man.
 
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