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Steroids Are Pointless! Is this somewhat Accurate?

Great replies, lets me know how much of a dipshit I am and how close minded I guess I was. I see and understand many points that have been given. I may not agree but I am listening.
Decem- yes I read it, I guess I wanted to address it again, with a different approach(may not be that different though), are you mad? Do you want to fight me? Meet me at the bike racks at 3:00 sharp then, ok? Alright peace homes
 
Wombat said:


Yes but muscle memory is unreal...Gear can bring one to a new level...Even if one stops and loses 80% of gains. The muscle memory is always there just waiting.

this is true.. very true.. i kept my size from my last cycle for 7 weeks or so.. then i started losing it like crazy for 3 weeks prior to starting this cycle.. well.. i had lost over 1.5-2 inches on my arms since stopping the cycle... but in the 9 days that i've been on this cycle.. i've already gained an inch on my arms..

i do love that..
 
havoc said:

Decem- yes I read it, I guess I wanted to address it again, with a different approach(may not be that different though), are you mad? Do you want to fight me? Meet me at the bike racks at 3:00 sharp then, ok? Alright peace homes


you're toast
 
Anything can be pointless it all depends on how you look at it.
EXACTLY!!!

After all, look at life, you are born, work you ass off, fall to pieces and die, why bother?

Its not the end result people its the journey that matters. Live life to the fullest, if it involves AAS so be it.
 
You do loose some gains if you quit juice. But if you keep lifting then you will keep alot of the gains and look better you would have drug free.

The main problem is that when people stop juicing. They stop lifting, eating right, ect... It is just like going on a diet. You diet you loose, you go back to eating Mcdonalds you gain. It is a vicous cycle.

Working out and eating properly should be considered a lifestyle not a diet. It must be a permanent change in order to look and feel the best you can. and if you throw in a cycle every now and then (done properly) it can take you to the next level. A level which can be somewhat maintained.

Nautica
 
If I had to guess most people over the age of 35 probably have low to very low test levels and HGH levels to begin with. Bringing the levels up only makes sense. And educated doctor on the subject will tell you that it can be the "fountain of youth"....Of course our government does not want the masses to know that. One problem with gear is the abuse of it. Which in a lot of cases will lead to other drugs. And when that happens, steroids will be blamed for all the problems that occured. The truth is most people that use, don't know shit about diet, rest, proper training etc. And its either these types of people and the abusers that will almost always regret using down the road. Hell most of the young guys using (high school etc) are using small doses and will only use as a fad. These types of users will "in most cases" not be using long and will have no bad repercusions from the use. These same types of idiots will be the same ones that when they smack around there girlfriend, get into other drugs, or anything else that might get them into trouble, will be the first ones to say that steroids fucked them up--blah-blah-blah.....And they will tell everyone that will listen how big they used to be and that they were experts in steroid use. Usually these guys do no more then 400mgs of Brovel test(which probably only amounts to 250mgs if lucky) and 30mgs of d-ball(and they will be lucky to get the real deal of these)---No nolva or clomid--no hcg etc.---These types of guys walk around your gym like they own the place---zits all over there backs for everyone to see(bacause they will be sporting there wife beaters) and to them, the squat rack is a place to lean and talk. In more cases then one these are the types of guys that are on here stating "I'll never use again" or "my girlfriend thinks the gear is making me into an asshole"or "which drugs should I use to cut up" as they walk around hovering well over 15% bodyfat with pigeon legs. I think steroids are for people that know that they will be lifting weights for the rest of there lives. Also whats wrong with taking a hormone replacement(thats all it really is) and women use female hormones like there is no tomorrow. Steroids have a bad rap because of the abusers of other drugs and people that got themselves into trouble one way or another and needed and excuse(scapegoat) for what they did. And there is no better scapegoat when the world is filled with uneducated sheep. just my 2 cents...peace
 
Wombat said:
If I had to guess most people over the age of 35 probably have low to very low test levels and HGH levels to begin with. Bringing the levels up only makes sense. And educated doctor on the subject will tell you that it can be the "fountain of youth"....Of course our government does not want the masses to know that. One problem with gear is the abuse of it. Which in a lot of cases will lead to other drugs. And when that happens, steroids will be blamed for all the problems that occured. The truth is most people that use, don't know shit about diet, rest, proper training etc. And its either these types of people and the abusers that will almost always regret using down the road. Hell most of the young guys using (high school etc) are using small doses and will only use as a fad. These types of users will "in most cases" not be using long and will have no bad repercusions from the use. These same types of idiots will be the same ones that when they smack around there girlfriend, get into other drugs, or anything else that might get them into trouble, will be the first ones to say that steroids fucked them up--blah-blah-blah.....And they will tell everyone that will listen how big they used to be and that they were experts in steroid use. Usually these guys do no more then 400mgs of Brovel test(which probably only amounts to 250mgs if lucky) and 30mgs of d-ball(and they will be lucky to get the real deal of these)---No nolva or clomid--no hcg etc.---These types of guys walk around your gym like they own the place---zits all over there backs for everyone to see(bacause they will be sporting there wife beaters) and to them, the squat rack is a place to lean and talk. In more cases then one these are the types of guys that are on here stating "I'll never use again" or "my girlfriend thinks the gear is making me into an asshole"or "which drugs should I use to cut up" as they walk around hovering well over 15% bodyfat with pigeon legs. I think steroids are for people that know that they will be lifting weights for the rest of there lives. Also whats wrong with taking a hormone replacement(thats all it really is) and women use female hormones like there is no tomorrow. Steroids have a bad rap because of the abusers of other drugs and people that got themselves into trouble one way or another and needed and excuse(scapegoat) for what they did. And there is no better scapegoat when the world is filled with uneducated sheep. just my 2 cents...peace

Good post Wombat. Easy with the chicken leg comment. Some of us just do not have the genetics for BIG legs especially in the calf area. :(
 
All I'm saying Havoc is that if you did a simple cycle of test/dbol, jesus, you'd get huge! And you'd keep that since you have a solid base to work on.
 
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