Steroids Are Pointless! Is this somewhat Accurate?

[double d]

Some good responses to this post (except for Beefstinks abortion). Frackal's last response hit it on the head. Bodybuilding and muscle gains are along term endeavor for the serious minded. Given the commitment to training, diet and recovery steroids become supplemental, the ultimate supplement.
Dorian and other pros abuse their bodies from steroids, but they have made this choice. Best of luck to them with their long term health (Dorian's nubain addiction isn't helping either).
Havoc is seems you have made the choice not to use and I can respect that, because you can understand the point of view from the steroid user's side and respect that view. You have confidence in your traing and diet (plus the results) to warrant not even having to consider using. But most of all you have the commitment neccessary, because this sport of ours is as much about having mental strength as physical strength.
Commitment goes a long way to keeping gains, Primobolan helps too!!!

 

[HockeySTUD]

Outstanding Post WOMBAT..... You are exactly right, hit it on the head. I have had 4 diffrent doctors tell me in person that steroids if done in moderaton are nowhere near as bad as alcohol is on your system. People that bash this are the uneducated or the one's that are so unhappy with themselves and there progress they blame it on the gear b/c they won't blame themselves on being lazy. I understand those who choose not to, but don't talk down or negative to those who do. If you can't take dealing with doing it in moderation then you shouldn't be using it to begin with. That's just my .02

Take care all, all continue to grow!

"Failure is inevitable, if you do not strive for your GOALS!"

 

[BigBazooka]

All I'm saying Havoc is that if you did a simple cycle of test/dbol, jesus, you'd get huge! And you'd keep that since you have a solid base to work on.

LMAO. Funny shit. Havoc dwarfs 99% of the people on this board (YES, even the juicers), so I think it's pretty safe to say that Havoc already HAS that solid base and even way beyond that. That, plus he's a ninja, too.

 

[trial0r]

None (from what I have read on this board, from what I have seen with my own eyes with respect to friends and such, and then to use pro bbuilders as an example as well) give permanent results. People get on, get what they want, then lose it, sounds like a waste. I have read the same on here. Also, take Dorian Yates for example, the man at the present time looks like complete shit. Please keep in mind that my standards may be different than yours as well. I have always contemplated using but as of yesterday decided that it will never occur. Seems pointless, unless and I emphasize unless here, unless you are attempting to compete at a National level with intent on turning pro. Or maybe, you personally just like the feeling, the strength, the size, etc. Being blessed by the Most High, and having incorporated a proper diet, training and having this game down to a science for me has already given me the strength, size, shape, density and muscle maturity that many are aspiring to achieve. That is one reason why I ask this I guess because I cannot relate. Gentleman, what are your thoughts? Are they pointless when all is said and done, to an extent? Be honest. peace

b.s. -
results can damn well be permanent for the most part if training intensity diet devotion and proper post cycle recovery never waiver.

dorian is still fucking jacked.

no they are not pointless, unless you have no interest in muscles, women, or parting velvet ropes.

 

[BigBazooka]

Bump for havoc

 

[havoc]

Re: Re: Steroids Are Pointless! Is this somewhat Accurate?

b.s. -
results can damn well be permanent for the most part if training intensity diet devotion and proper post cycle recovery never waiver.

dorian is still fucking jacked.

no they are not pointless, unless you have no interest in muscles, women, or parting velvet ropes.

Double D, great words.
Wombat, that was a good post, I reread it.

TrialOr, maybe dorian is jacked to you, as I had pointed out, we all have different standards, but the man looks like garbage to me. I ask you to read over my posts in here, seems like you did not understand them or read them in a cursory type manner. They are in plain english my friend, you don't even have to break out your Captain Crunch Decoder ring thats lodged in your stretchmarked boner oven. Ok? Read up Shirley

 

[BEEFSTEAK67]

I don't know you, and you definitely don't know me!

I really feel sorry for someone who spouts out hard thought blocks of insults. Rather than a self proclaimed "pro" you sound like a insecure landscaper from the midwest. I know your not on the coast with the big boys, because you wouldn't be talking shit about your size....cause there is always someone bigger than you right around the corner, PUNK. Your 250 and 8% bodyfat and all natural; and your mother probably weighs 3 bills with 6%. A couple AS cycles and some GH& insulin and you'd be Mr. O, next year!!!!! You should have a contract with Twinlabs by now.

It's great that you have little internet friends who will stick up for a guy who spends way to much time posting remarks when he should be geting a life. Does the amount of posts you have make you smarter than me? Good philosophy. And busting on misspelled words if cool too!

I see a "Steroids are bullshit post" and I have to remark with harsh words, because you sound like a complete moron. They work, it proven, and the results last - if your smart. But obviously you not, so don't do em'. But don't spread false information either.

I have nothing more to say to you... flame on... think up some more obscure insult references, and drink your HOT STUFF.