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Smoking weed and training/cutting
- Thread starter Marcoparc
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Back away from the bud 
what kind of bars? =]
lol honestly ive had to quit plenty,
Probation - when i was a kid
Sanitation - Couple yrs ago went 6months.
i mean, i would take that bet if i wanted to quit, or needed some food lol
but ill take u up on that in the future, then ill be able to make up my mind if weed is beneficial to MYSELF.
Thanks for the poositive push jkurs, i know its just a vice and i will eventually.
lol honestly ive had to quit plenty,
Probation - when i was a kid
Sanitation - Couple yrs ago went 6months.
i mean, i would take that bet if i wanted to quit, or needed some food lol
but ill take u up on that in the future, then ill be able to make up my mind if weed is beneficial to MYSELF.
Thanks for the poositive push jkurs, i know its just a vice and i will eventually.
Lifterforlife
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I would just ask one simple question...has it helped you? If it has, more power to you. I know plenty of folks who can's smoke it because they get all crazy paranoid. Others get mellow and "see the world". I think(in my experience, over long term use is where the negatives come in as far as paranoia, thinking everyone is looking at you and talking about you, etc.) This is totally discounting the physical side of things.
This in the end is the bottom line I guess....folks are going to do what they want to do, that is what free will is all about.
This in the end is the bottom line I guess....folks are going to do what they want to do, that is what free will is all about.
macrophage69alpha
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cannabis induced psychosis. (actually know someone that this occured to, they had a full psychotic break--- note this is extremely uncommon less than 1/1000)
Neuropsychopharmacology. 2004 Aug;29(8):1558-72. Links
The psychotomimetic effects of intravenous delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol in healthy individuals: implications for psychosis.D'Souza DC, Perry E, MacDougall L, Ammerman Y, Cooper T, Wu YT, Braley G, Gueorguieva R, Krystal JH.
Schizophrenia Biological Research Center, VA Connecticut Healthcare System, West Haven, CT 06516, USA. [email protected]
Recent advances in the understanding of brain cannabinoid receptor function have renewed interest in the association between cannabinoid compounds and psychosis. In a 3-day, double-blind, randomized, and counterbalanced study, the behavioral, cognitive, and endocrine effects of 0, 2.5, and 5 mg intravenous delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (Delta-9-THC) were characterized in 22 healthy individuals, who had been exposed to cannabis but had never been diagnosed with a cannabis abuse disorder. Prospective safety data at 1, 3, and 6 months poststudy was also collected. Delta-9-THC (1) produced schizophrenia-like positive and negative symptoms; (2) altered perception; (3) increased anxiety; (4) produced euphoria; (5) disrupted immediate and delayed word recall, sparing recognition recall; (6) impaired performance on tests of distractibility, verbal fluency, and working memory (7) did not impair orientation; (8) increased plasma cortisol. These data indicate that Delta-9-THC produces a broad range of transient symptoms, behaviors, and cognitive deficits in healthy individuals that resemble some aspects of endogenous psychoses. These data warrant further study of whether brain cannabinoid receptor function contributes to the pathophysiology of psychotic disorders.
cannabis does impact prolactin levels, transiently. It has been linked with gynecomastia.
this study abrogates the findings that THC and other cannaboids are not ER agonists/antagonists (since there are other components in marijuana)
Estrogenic effects of marijuana smoke condensate and cannabinoid compounds.Lee SY, Oh SM, Chung KH.
National Institute of Scientific Investigation, 331-1 Shinwol-7-dong, Yangcheon-gu, Seoul 158-707, Korea; Sungkyunkwan University, 300 Cheoncheon-dong, Jangan-gu, Suwon, Gyeonggi-do 440-746, Korea.
Chronic exposure to marijuana produces adverse effects on the endocrine and reproductive systems in humans; however, the experimental evidence for this presented thus far has not been without controversy. In this study, the estrogenic effect of marijuana smoke condensate (MSC) was evaluated using in vitro bioassays, viz., the cell proliferation assay, the reporter gene assay, and the ER competitive binding assay. The results of these assays were compared with those of three major cannabinoids, i.e., THC, CBD, and CBN. The estrogenic effect of MSC was further confirmed by the immature female rat uterotrophic assay. MSC stimulated the estrogenicity related to the ER-mediated pathway, while neither THC, CBD, nor CBN did. Moreover, treatment with 10 and 25 mg/kg MSC induced significant uterine response, and 10 mg/kg MSC resulted in an obvious change in the uterine epithelial cell appearance. MSC also enhanced the IGFBP-1 gene expression in a dose-dependent manner. To identify the constituents of MSC responsible for its estrogenicity, the MSC fractionated samples were examined using another cell proliferation assay, and the estrogenic active fraction was analyzed using GC-MS. In the organic acid fraction that showed the strongest estrogenic activity among the seven fractions of MSC, phenols were identified. Our results suggest that marijuana abuse is considered an endocrine-disrupting factor. Furthermore, these results suggest that the phenolic compounds contained in MSC play a role in its estrogenic effect.
Neuropsychopharmacology. 2004 Aug;29(8):1558-72. Links
The psychotomimetic effects of intravenous delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol in healthy individuals: implications for psychosis.D'Souza DC, Perry E, MacDougall L, Ammerman Y, Cooper T, Wu YT, Braley G, Gueorguieva R, Krystal JH.
Schizophrenia Biological Research Center, VA Connecticut Healthcare System, West Haven, CT 06516, USA. [email protected]
Recent advances in the understanding of brain cannabinoid receptor function have renewed interest in the association between cannabinoid compounds and psychosis. In a 3-day, double-blind, randomized, and counterbalanced study, the behavioral, cognitive, and endocrine effects of 0, 2.5, and 5 mg intravenous delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (Delta-9-THC) were characterized in 22 healthy individuals, who had been exposed to cannabis but had never been diagnosed with a cannabis abuse disorder. Prospective safety data at 1, 3, and 6 months poststudy was also collected. Delta-9-THC (1) produced schizophrenia-like positive and negative symptoms; (2) altered perception; (3) increased anxiety; (4) produced euphoria; (5) disrupted immediate and delayed word recall, sparing recognition recall; (6) impaired performance on tests of distractibility, verbal fluency, and working memory (7) did not impair orientation; (8) increased plasma cortisol. These data indicate that Delta-9-THC produces a broad range of transient symptoms, behaviors, and cognitive deficits in healthy individuals that resemble some aspects of endogenous psychoses. These data warrant further study of whether brain cannabinoid receptor function contributes to the pathophysiology of psychotic disorders.
cannabis does impact prolactin levels, transiently. It has been linked with gynecomastia.
this study abrogates the findings that THC and other cannaboids are not ER agonists/antagonists (since there are other components in marijuana)
Estrogenic effects of marijuana smoke condensate and cannabinoid compounds.Lee SY, Oh SM, Chung KH.
National Institute of Scientific Investigation, 331-1 Shinwol-7-dong, Yangcheon-gu, Seoul 158-707, Korea; Sungkyunkwan University, 300 Cheoncheon-dong, Jangan-gu, Suwon, Gyeonggi-do 440-746, Korea.
Chronic exposure to marijuana produces adverse effects on the endocrine and reproductive systems in humans; however, the experimental evidence for this presented thus far has not been without controversy. In this study, the estrogenic effect of marijuana smoke condensate (MSC) was evaluated using in vitro bioassays, viz., the cell proliferation assay, the reporter gene assay, and the ER competitive binding assay. The results of these assays were compared with those of three major cannabinoids, i.e., THC, CBD, and CBN. The estrogenic effect of MSC was further confirmed by the immature female rat uterotrophic assay. MSC stimulated the estrogenicity related to the ER-mediated pathway, while neither THC, CBD, nor CBN did. Moreover, treatment with 10 and 25 mg/kg MSC induced significant uterine response, and 10 mg/kg MSC resulted in an obvious change in the uterine epithelial cell appearance. MSC also enhanced the IGFBP-1 gene expression in a dose-dependent manner. To identify the constituents of MSC responsible for its estrogenicity, the MSC fractionated samples were examined using another cell proliferation assay, and the estrogenic active fraction was analyzed using GC-MS. In the organic acid fraction that showed the strongest estrogenic activity among the seven fractions of MSC, phenols were identified. Our results suggest that marijuana abuse is considered an endocrine-disrupting factor. Furthermore, these results suggest that the phenolic compounds contained in MSC play a role in its estrogenic effect.
pitbullrocco
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been smoking ED for almost 10 years (at least 6 j's/day).....quit a couple times for jobs, etc.....not longer than a couple months.....only thing i noticed was my body was less drowsy and lethargic.....harder to fall sleep (& more money in my pocket)....rebound effect i guess.....i also became an angrier human being......more tense and irritable.....i ate less and lost weight
chemically, i think it would be easier to shed adipose while not smoking (or at least not every day almost nonstop).....seems like i did see a study once that showed subjects actually lost weight while toking up.....i think it was in japan
i was thinking of quitting this week during my bulk, b/c i don't like the fact that cort levels spike = catabolic......
chemically, i think it would be easier to shed adipose while not smoking (or at least not every day almost nonstop).....seems like i did see a study once that showed subjects actually lost weight while toking up.....i think it was in japan
i was thinking of quitting this week during my bulk, b/c i don't like the fact that cort levels spike = catabolic......
I smoke everyday, a little less than i use to... on the normal.. 2-3 cigarillos a day... now.. more like once a day... weekends tend to get the higher numbers.
My body has actually gotten more fit since i started... given i dont know the effects w/o it and how my lifestyle has changed since then...
but i know my body... and i know it doesnt effect me enough to change...
BTW i used to smoke cigs as well and cut that ... now just some black and mild *milds every week
Do what feels right... if weed is one thing that might fullfill that then let it be.
shit... i have a six pack now, and when i didnt smoke i was BIgger but about 15-20 lbs overweight.
My body has actually gotten more fit since i started... given i dont know the effects w/o it and how my lifestyle has changed since then...
but i know my body... and i know it doesnt effect me enough to change...
BTW i used to smoke cigs as well and cut that ... now just some black and mild *milds every week
Do what feels right... if weed is one thing that might fullfill that then let it be.
shit... i have a six pack now, and when i didnt smoke i was BIgger but about 15-20 lbs overweight.
nodiggitydave
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awesome thread
