Should a man have a say in whether his wife or girlfriend has an abortion?

[foreigngirl]

what about the drunk type who sobers up?

lol

I heard about it a lot.

Also, the "it was dark, she looked better"

 

[Wulfgar]

there are alot of smart people making very true statements on this thread

and one bitchy, hormonal, bitter, pregnant one who knows all the stuff she is saying is bullshit and only is being said because she is pissed off she spread her legs for a guy who turned out to not give 2 shits about her....not to name any names...

grow up and give up this whole "be a man" shit. people need to be SMART above all and not careless and emotional when it comes to bringing another life into this world. Women hold the cards, it is about time they learned to ante up and play the hand that empowers everyone in the long run, not just thier emotional instinct which more often than not drains everyone involved emotionally, physically and financially.

 

[heatherrae]

there are alot of smart people making very true statements on this thread

and one bitchy, hormonal, bitter, pregnant one who knows all the stuff she is saying is bullshit and only is being said because she is pissed off she spread her legs for a guy who turned out to not give 2 shits about her....not to name any names...

grow up and give up this whole "be a man" shit. people need to be SMART above all and not careless and emotional when it comes to bringing another life into this world. Women hold the cards, it is about time they learned to ante up and play the hand that empowers everyone in the long run, not just thier emotional instinct which more often than not drains everyone involved emotionally, physically and financially.

Wulfgar, I say this with all sincerity.

Kiss my ass.

 

[jnevin]

there are alot of smart people making very true statements on this thread

and one bitchy, hormonal, bitter, pregnant one who knows all the stuff she is saying is bullshit and only is being said because she is pissed off she spread her legs for a guy who turned out to not give 2 shits about her....not to name any names...

grow up and give up this whole "be a man" shit. people need to be SMART above all and not careless and emotional when it comes to bringing another life into this world. Women hold the cards, it is about time they learned to ante up and play the hand that empowers everyone in the long run, not just thier emotional instinct which more often than not drains everyone involved emotionally, physically and financially.

+1

 

[heatherrae]

Yeah, okay guys go around fathering children and then bitching about having to send them a little money to eat. Then, lambaste the moms. You guys forget that I was engaged and he very much got me pregnant on purpose. It wasn't an accident on his part.

Pretty much puts you both on his level. Neither of you are real men, IMO.

 

[foreigngirl]

Yeah, okay guys go around fathering children and then bitching about having to send them a little money to eat. Then, lambaste the moms. You guys forget that I was engaged and he very much got me pregnant on purpose. It wasn't an accident on his part.

Pretty much puts you both on his level. Neither of you are real men, IMO.

I think what they are trying to say is this:

we as women have the power to decide if we want a child or not by doing the following:

1. say no to sex with a guy that you dont know that well

or

2. Use protection - birth control pill or an IUD whatever

never, ever let the guy get you pregnant if you feel you are not ready or if you feel he is not the right one.

 

[Wulfgar]

I think what they are trying to say is this:

we as women have the power to decide if we want a child or not by doing the following:

1. say no to sex with a guy that you dont know that well

or

2. Use protection - birth control pill or an IUD whatever

never, ever let the guy get you pregnant if you feel you are not ready or if you feel he is not the right one.

exactly!
I am not trying to bash you heather. I would be in the front of a pro-choice rally holding a huge banner saying "womens body, womens choice!" but I would also add "womens body, womens RESPONSIBILITY". condoms break, precum leaks out, shit happens. after which the man can DO NOTHING, at that point the woman has had the option to be on birth control, know her cycle and when she is ovulating, use an IUD or any other myriad of options that are completely under her control.
errant judgements in the charachter of the people you sleep with and allowing YOURSELF to be imprenanted should be on you just as much(if not more, since you are the one that becomes pregnant and carries the child AND has the choice of what to do with the unborn fetus when you are pregnant)as it is on us.

 

[foreigngirl]

exactly!
I am not trying to bash you heather. I would be in the front of a pro-choice rally holding a huge banner saying "womens body, womens choice!" but I would also add "womens body, womens RESPONSIBILITY". condoms break, precum leaks out, shit happens. after which the man can DO NOTHING, at that point the woman has had the option to be on birth control, know her cycle and when she is ovulating, use an IUD or any other myriad of options that are completely under her control.
errant judgements in the charachter of the people you sleep with and allowing YOURSELF to be imprenanted should be on you just as much(if not more, since you are the one that becomes pregnant and carries the child AND has the choice of what to do with the unborn fetus when you are pregnant)as it is on us.

agreed 100%. At this century the woman has all the power of deciding if and when they want to have a kid. Women just 70 years ago didnt have much choice.

And I dont like how women are starting to play the role of "Its my body, my choice" on the abortion issue, taking full responsibility over the decision, but "he got me pregnant boooo hooooo" and not taking responsibility on protection issue. If I want to be able to decide on my own if I want to abort or not, I am damn sure gonna make sure I DONT get pregnant

 

[Wulfgar]

^^^^ APPLAUSE!!!!

 

[FriendlyCanadian]

I'm adopted, my birth mother was a sweet little 14 year old girl at 5'2 who was raped by my birth father some angry dude at 21 and 6'5.

thankful to god everyday that I'm alive and to my birth mother for going through a pregnancy at such a young age.. holy shit 14??

assuming that it was an accident, like the condom broke.. whatever.. 1% amazingness. I'd say it should mostly be up to the woman to decide, but shit if you're in a relationship, and you said gf or wife, every decision should be mutual.

everything should be talked about discussed.

in any situation it takes two to make fucking babies, so it should take two to make the decision unless there is some kind of evil deception going on, like the boyfriend or girlfriend poking holes in the condoms and shit, ugh the horror.

adoption is a good option, I actually had to talk one of my friends at the age of 16 through an abortion and help her out with it, which was pretty crushing for me, being that I came from a 14 year old momma, but the dude was a total deadbeat and totally fucked up as soon as he found out. It was ultimately her choice, her body, never once did I try to push her towards adoption I just tried to be the friend she needed at the time, it was a very difficult decision for her to make, but one she could only make for herself.

abortion is so circumstantial in my opinion.

IF you are one of the asshats using abortion as a form of birth control, then fuck you. I've known people like this too.