Should a man have a say in whether his wife or girlfriend has an abortion?

[Wulfgar]

But women have the ultimate control:

1) they can say no
2) they can do oral
3) they can take the pill
4) they can insist on condoms
5) they can use other internal birth control
6) they can take morning after pill
7) they can have an abortion
8) they can do ANAL

All men make is 1 mistake and they're fkd. hardly fair.

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and alot of the women on here are being slightly obtuse
heather, i know you ARE preggo and hormonal, but to tell guys to keep thier dicks in thier pants as if it is entirely our fault is just wrong. Obviously consensual sex is just that! there is CONSENT by both parties to HAVE sex only. I cannot think of one girl I have been with where we both consent to having a child and being responsible for it for 18 years.
IMHO the woman holds all the cards on her own body if she is pregnant. And with that power comes the responsibility of not only her body and the babies body, but also the man involved and his needs and wants.
Since women get to have such a wonderful experience as being pregnant and birthing a child and obviously men never do, please understand the position the man takes and respect whatever agreement you 2 had BEFORE the pregnancy occured. Not shotgun the guy, abuse the system, and create strife.

 

[Oceano]

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and alot of the women on here are being slightly obtuse
heather, i know you ARE preggo and hormonal, but to tell guys to keep thier dicks in thier pants as if it is entirely our fault is just wrong. Obviously consensual sex is just that! there is CONSENT by both parties to HAVE sex only. I cannot think of one girl I have been with where we both consent to having a child and being responsible for it for 18 years.
IMHO the woman holds all the cards on her own body if she is pregnant. And with that power comes the responsibility of not only her body and the babies body, but also the man involved and his needs and wants.
Since women get to have such a wonderful experience as being pregnant and birthing a child and obviously men never do, please understand the position the man takes and respect whatever agreement you 2 had BEFORE the pregnancy occured. Not shotgun the guy, abuse the system, and create strife.

Real talk, AND before she gets pregant. She can stop it AFTER it has happened.

 

[cindylou]

fixed
and alot of the women on here are being slightly obtuse
heather, i know you ARE preggo and hormonal, but to tell guys to keep thier dicks in thier pants as if it is entirely our fault is just wrong. Obviously consensual sex is just that! there is CONSENT by both parties to HAVE sex only. I cannot think of one girl I have been with where we both consent to having a child and being responsible for it for 18 years.
IMHO the woman holds all the cards on her own body if she is pregnant. And with that power comes the responsibility of not only her body and the babies body, but also the man involved and his needs and wants.
Since women get to have such a wonderful experience as being pregnant and birthing a child and obviously men never do, please understand the position the man takes and respect whatever agreement you 2 had BEFORE the pregnancy occured. Not shotgun the guy, abuse the system, and create strife.

good post

 

[Oceano]

the morning after pill after all sex? .

no, just unprotected sex while not on birth control pill

Most of the women I know who got pregnant got pregnant reguardless of condoms and birthcontrol pills. If it were just unprotected sex and he bust a nut ; then there would be less pregnancies and of course yes ; the morning after pill would be an option. I know MARRIED couples who have gotten pregnant when they were not ready because the pill failed them ; or in high schools when condoms broke..

Now, you're tryna blame birth control when its 99% effective

dont have one night stands. Dangerous imo. I'm sorry but they can lead to a baby with said female and there is nothing you can do about it!! She can "forget" to take the pill who knows what kind of chick she is! Its risky behavior and no woman is gonna let you control her body because you want to engage in risky behavior with no consequenses.

I like one night stands. I never have to look at her again. (usually)

 

[cindylou]

no, just unprotected sex while not on birth control pill




Now, you're tryna blame birth control when its 99% effective



I like one night stands. I never have to look at her again. (usually)

lol. How old are you oceano??? I'm not gonna aruge with you ; you got the wrong girl. I'm not going to debate with you because you want to be able to tell some woman to abort a baby because you wanna have one night stands.

You cant be serious!

Birth control is only .99% effective WHEN TAKEN PROPERLY. also I DO KNOW FOR A FACT many of my married friends who HAVE STILL GOTTEN PREGNANT ON THE PILL. So .99% effective my ass. 3 couples since I've been married and I've only been married about 3 years! thats alot! Not counting my friend who got knocked up in high school while using a condom ; and the other friend in high school who got knocked up while using the pill. thats also not counting my cousin who has had TWO ABORTIONS and my sister who had one and my sisinlaw who suffered a misscarriage all while taking the pill or using condoms. All you have to do is forget to take that pill one day. But while she's drunk and you've got her in a room somewhere do you think she is gonna mention that she forgot last sunday to take a pill and that now its only 80% effective now (or whatever the effectiveness drops to)

I"m not saying birth control is not effective and that women dont have control over the outcome!!

I dont know why so many people get pregnant. I am not on the pill ; have not been on the pill in like 4 years ; dont use condoms ; and I dont get pregnant. But I guess some women are just really fertile. lol. it blows my mind how someone taking bc pills can still get pregnant but I promise you it happens and it happens all the time ; not because they are not effective but because mistakes happen. They just happen ; ya know?

I really dont want to argue with you tho ; you seem like a nice guy. I should leave the debate up to the debaters. *leaving thread*

 

[Oceano]

lol. How old are you oceano??? I'm not gonna aruge with you ; you got the wrong girl. I'm not going to debate with you because you want to be able to tell some woman to abort a baby because you wanna have one night stands.

You cant be serious!*

lmfao, is that what you really took from my post?

Can't you tell when someone is making a joke?

Birth control is only .99% effective WHEN TAKEN PROPERLY. !*

Well take it properly then.

also I DO KNOW FOR A FACT many of my married friends who HAVE STILL GOTTEN PREGNANT ON THE PILL.!*

Yeah, the medical trials/tests etc and all are wrong. Your friends are right

3 couples since I've been married and I've only been married about 3 years! thats alot! Not counting my friend who got knocked up in high school while using a condom ; and the other friend in high school who got knocked up while using the pill. thats also not counting my cousin who has had TWO ABORTIONS and my sister who had one and my sisinlaw who suffered a misscarriage all while taking the pill or using condoms..

I believe doctors view on the efficacy of the pill over your friend in high school who got knocked up.

All you have to do is forget to take that pill one day...

What about the day after yo!

But while she's drunk and you've got her in a room somewhere do you think she is gonna mention that she forgot last sunday to take a pill and that now its only 80% effective now (or whatever the effectiveness drops to)...

Whats wrong with being careful? Its worth it when ur lookin at 9months + 18 years.

I"m not saying birth control is not effective and that women dont have control over the outcome!! )...

Yes you are

I dont know why so many people get pregnant. I am not on the pill ; have not been on the pill in like 4 years ; dont use condoms ; and I dont get pregnant. But I guess some women are just really fertile.)...

Or they're lying to you. (they may even be tryin to keep a man)

lol. it blows my mind how someone taking bc pills can still get pregnant but I promise you it happens and it happens all the time ; not because they are not effective but because mistakes happen. They just happen ; ya know?.)...

They don't happen the day after. Take it the next day!

I really dont want to argue with you tho ; you seem like a nice guy. I should leave the debate up to the debaters. *leaving thread*

Its not an argument. Don't be too sensitive. Its just an online discussion. I do think women have many many more chances to stop it than men. And men dont even get the chance of an abortion after it.

1 night and 1 mistake for a guy is all it takes. For a woman she can have a number of chances to stop it.

 

[sardonicone]

People have gotten pregnant on the pill, elstwise they would say that the pill is 100% effective, you dolt.

 

[heatherrae]

Regardless. Men know when they have sex that children can result. Then the men whine and snivel about a few bucks. The real people that should get someone's sympathy are the children. That is who suffers when men are deadbeats.

 

[javaguru]

Regardless. Men know when they have sex that children can result. Then the men whine and snivel about a few bucks. The real people that should get someone's sympathy are the children. That is who suffers when men are deadbeats.

Welcome to my post from earlier today.

 

[sardonicone]

Each is equally able to use birth control. So, really how can the men complain? They know how babies are made.

I'm still trying to figure that one out HR.