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Red Meat concerns

Bonecrusher

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With all the meat we eat for protein, I'm getting worried about clogged arteries. What are you guys eating and how much should I worry about my arteries getting plugged ? I've heard everyone say lean cuts but lean cuts of what ? According to many of the bodybuilding diets, Metabolic Diet, You are supposed to eat a lot of fat. If you have an opinion let me hear it.

Peace
 
lean cuts of anything, beef pork chicken. ground beef you can buy, by the % leanness. ask the butcher they will tell you what cuts are leaner than others if you don't know
 
yea just the meat w/o lots o fat on them. Usually at the grocery store you can buy extra lean chicken, steak etc

Mike
 
Ripped2Shreds said:
What about red meat causing colon cancer, is there anything proving that?

With the amount of saturated fat in it that can increase your chances of getting certain cancers, but then again living in LA and breathing that nasty air can also increase your chances of developing certain cancers...
 
I LIVE off of 96% Fat Free ground beef.

just 4.5g of fat per 1/4lb and 23g of protien. Throw that sum bitch on the George Foreman grill, and we're all set to go.
 
Red meat, in and of itself, does not cause "clogged arteries", but you can take these supplements to protect yourself from CV disease...

1. Garlic: According to JAMA's 9/18/02 issue, "garlic extract works the same way as HDL cholesterol, but more potently. The researchers who conducted the study stated that, "in concentrations relative to man, garlic extract was 2.5 times more effective in inhibiting plaque formation than was HDL-cholesterol." According to LEF, 1000mg per 1.1 pounds of food eaten per day is recommended. FYI, one way arterial occlusion occurs is when LDL-cholesterol binds with molecules secreted from the inner lining of the artery, forming tiny plaques that can accumulate and harden. HDL-cholesterol inhibits this process by absorbing excess plaque-forming molecules.

2. Fish Oils: "A chronic inflammatory state, as evidenced by elevated C-reactive protein, results in significant damage to the arterial system." "Research on C-reactive protein indicates that cholesterol-filled plaques in blood vessels may not pose any real danger unless they are affected by inflammation." "Inflammation weakens plaques, making them more vulnerable to bursting or pinching off a clot that can then block coronary vessels." "One of the best ways to control inflammation is to take fish oil supplements daily. Fish oil supplements should contain both DHA (docosahexaenoic acid) and EPA (eicosapentaenoic acid). A recent study found that three grams of fish oil a day was heart-protective. Antioxidant supplements help to control free radicals produced by inflammation." www.lef.org monthly publication, (12/02 issue).

3. Vitamin C: "High fibrinogen levels can induce a heart attack via several mechanisms, including increased platelet aggregation, hyper-coagulation and excessive blood thickening. The New England Journal of Medicine studies showed that those with high levels of fibrinogen were more than twice as likely to die of a heart attack." "At 2000 mg a day of Vitamin C, there was a 27% decrease in the platelet aggregation index, a 12% reduction in total cholesterol and a 45% increase in fibrinolysis (fibrinogen breakdown) activity." Lower levels of C did not produce this effect. Quotes taken from LEF's 01/01 issue of their magazine entitled "Inflammation and Heart Disease". www.lef.org/magazine/mag2001/jan2001_awsi.html

4. Folic Acid, B6, B12 and TMG: Excessive homocysteine blocks the natural breakdown of fibrinogen by inhibiting the production of tissue plasminogen activator (tPA). Folic acid , TMG, vitamin B12 and vitamin B6 reduce elevated homocysteine levels. www.lef.org/magazine/mag2001/jan2001_awsi.html
 
I eat mostly top round (London Broil). When it goes on sale for $1.80 - 2.00 per pound, I buy 50 - 100 lbs. My butcher trims off most of the fat, grinds it once and freezes it in 6 oz patties for me. You can get that stuff 95% lean.

I also like tenderloin (filets). I trim them and grill them. Can easily eat 20 oz at a time.

As long as the red meat is lean and you don't grill constantly, you should be fine. Consume a lot of anti-oxidants, omega-3 oils (murine and plant (flax)) and methyl donors (i.e., B-12, trimethylglycine, etc.) to keep homocysteine levels low. I also add about 30 grams/d of soy protein to my shakes, further reduces LDL and homocysteine.

And.....enjoy. If we weren't meant to eat red meat, it wouldn't taste so good.

W6
 
Following the Atkins diet I reduced my cholesterol by 100. That diet mandates a whole lotta meat. It's the carbs I can't eat. But everybody's body is different.
 
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