Protein intake in a single meal

[gjohnson5]

SO...on larger bbing men for example...that could be as much as 400 grams or more...assuming 8 meals per day(which is a LOT)...then its about 50 grams per meal...a lot more than what some recommend as a max amount


.. if u subscribe to the idea that a female body can't process more than say 36 g protein / 2 hrs -- that's the only way to consume that much. I'm not saying i know its a fact but that is the concept as my trainer has established it.

and yes I'm trying to find that reference, but if u follow that idea, that's how it works.

I dunno. I'm 5'9 240 21" arms and 29" legs and I barely take 300g of protein a day much less the amounts you guys are talking about. Females should be even more careful. There are 2 byproducts of protein consumption
1. water
2. ammonia
People can actually small like ammonia if they swallow too much protein. I think this is a bigger problem for females since they don't have as much muscle therefore less protein requirements.

Read these threads
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=397278&highlight=smell+ammonia

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328435&highlight=smell+ammonia

Basically the consensus in my opinion is WAYYY overstated to the point of the above symtoms. Even protein can be abused, so females what your intake.

 

[nycgirl]

What is too much protein for females? I want to gain muscle mass, however I've never ate 2 grams of protein per lb (never went over 190 grams).

 

[gjohnson5]

What is too much protein for females? I want to gain muscle mass, however I've never ate 2 grams of protein per lb (never went over 190 grams).

2g per lb only makes sense for a guy on lots of gear. Steroids such as tren acetate will cause his body to synthesize more protein...

1. Start with 1g per 1 lb of lbm , then try 1.5 g per 1 lbm
I think this is a good starting point for guys too
2. Replace shakes with real food
Radar said that the most anabolic agent there is is food. I believe that to be correct. I only do 2 shakes a day. The rest is controlled through a sound diet. This is will help with pill popping as people tend to be lazy and not count the nutrients they get. Instead they go to GNC and buy pills. Resist this and manage nutrients through a good diet

 

[The Shadow]

if u subscribe to the idea that a female body can't process more than say 36 g protein / 2 hrs -- that's the only way to consume that much. I'm not saying i know its a fact but that is the concept as my trainer has established it.

and yes I'm trying to find that reference, but if u follow that idea, that's how it works.

I personally dont subscribe to that idea....

imo a broad statement of any sort that say X AMOUNT of protein can be utilized every 2-3 hours totally overlooks things like Bv and what I call "dissolution rate"......its saying that 36 grams of protein from red meat is equivalent to 36 grams of Whey.....we know that it takes much longer for the red meat to be digested than the whey...

 

[fmorrow6]

This is a great thread, thanks shadow.....( sorry I'm not much help. LOL) But I've always wondered.

 

[Sassy69]

Obviously I would like to find this reference - but YES in every discussion or rule of thumb about nutrition & body metabolism there are individual things you need to consider when applying.

Further, NO I am not suggesting that people eat 2 g protein per lb of lean body mass. I am simply using that to illustrate how some people (in this instance, my trainer) arrive at developing a meal plan for whatever specific purpose. It is only PART of the equation and I found that for ME personally I have to also consider the total cals when I look to increase any part of my diet because I just get fat if my cals go over 17-1800, regardless of the idea of feeding more protein to build muscle. There are SO MANY factors to identifying a diet that meets your specific needs while working with your specific current state, lifestyle, activity levels & recovery period. Some "rules of thumb" will work for you specifically, some won't. That's where it takes a lot of work, a lot of patience and sometimes a degree of faith to learn what works best for YOUR body.

 

[Sassy69]

I"m gonna throw this up here because it illustrates the extent of this discussion -- from a different board (and mods please feel free to pull if you feel inappropriate)

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