PROOF? You Decide.

[Nelson Montana]

This isn;t a double blind, peer reviewed abstract conducted by an independant University. it's just the results of my latest blood test.

I've been on 100 mgs a week of T for over 6 years now.

My total T is 876 -- the upper healthy range. (Just sort of being TOO high).

My FREE testosterone was 5:00 -- over the normal range for men 29 to 49. I'm 54.

This proves two things.

One: Stop believing this nonsense spewed by people who don't understand how hormonal fluctuation works about being "shut down"once you use any exogenous T. You CAN maintain natural production along with additional intake with the proper procedures.

And two: Gotta say it. UNLEASHED. I take it religiously. There is no way my SHBG can be that low at my age without help. That means either Winny, Proviron or UNLEASHED. Since I only take UNLEASHED, that's the only answer.

So I'm not sure how much this means to everyone but in the least, it should make everyone rethink the "shutdown" concept and start thinking about doing everything possible to maintain natural T and Free T production for life.

 

[GUARDIAN]

do u believe u can maintain full production while on a low dose?

 

[Mavafanculo]

do u believe u can maintain full production while on a low dose?

in simplified cliff note form, your body tries to maintain homeostatic quantity X units of test.

if you inject any compound that is mapped to x-40 units by the hypothalmus, then your body will produce 40 units to get it to its homeostatic quantity.

if you inject any compound that is mapped to x-10 units by the hypothalmus, then your body will produce 10 units to get it to its homeostatic quantity.

if you inject any compound that is mapped to >/= X units by the hypothalmus, then your body will not produce any of its own test cuz it thinks it has enuf.

 

[Ross]

Nelson, you were on 100mgs of TESTOSTERONE, which is why you tested at almost 900ng/dl.

You ARE SHUTDOWN, try coming OFF and see what your level is...

 

[Nelson Montana]

Mav is correct but I'll simplify it somewhat.

Whenever you add an exogenous compound, the body gets help so it therefore doesn't try as hard. They'll always be SOME suprression. But not helping it all will just be a burden because at some point it simply can't make enough. So no, you can not retain FULL production, but there is the law of homeostasis. The body will perceive the help and use it, but still under the impression that it must still "produce" some on it's own. It's just getting help. Think of it as a "spot" on the last rep of a bench press. It isn't all you at that point and it isn't all the spotter. Both are needed.

Of course, if you SLAM it down with too much, it essentially "gives up" and lets the drug do everything. The key is balance.

 

[galaxy]

Nelson, you were on 100mgs of TESTOSTERONE, which is why you tested at almost 900ng/dl.

You ARE SHUTDOWN, try coming OFF and see what your level is...

+1

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson, you were on 100mgs of TESTOSTERONE, which is why you tested at almost 900ng/dl.

You ARE SHUTDOWN, try coming OFF and see what your level is...

So you're saying if i come off, My T will be near zero? That makes no sense bro. If that were the case, 100 mgs would not get me to 900 ngs.

 

[Ross]

So you're saying if i come off, My T will be near zero? That makes no sense bro. If that were the case, 100 mgs would not get me to 900 ngs.

Yes, 100mgs every week will put you exactly around 900NG/DL

Come completely OFF, you will be down to the 100's.

 

[jaybois]

Good thread.

 

[JLowe02]

So you're saying if i come off, My T will be near zero? That makes no sense bro. If that were the case, 100 mgs would not get me to 900 ngs.

that does make sense