Pro and cons for 2 workouts a day

[SSAlexSS]

I posted this on another thread but here it is again:

http://www.wsu.edu/~strength/twosess.htm

Two key points to this article, besides the reasearch that supports this idea, are one;you cut your training volume in half and spread it over two workouts, you do not double your workload simply because you are training twice.Second, a three week period was used.You don't train like this all the time.Poliquin recommends two weeks of multiple sessions/day alternated with at least one week of regular training, i.e. one session per day.Again, here is a previously posted link, by Poliquin this time, about the different types of two a day sessions.

http://t-mag.com/html/45cp.html

The major complaint of most people when they hear about this type of training is that it is too intense.That's true of everything when you first try it whether it is supersets, drop sets, maxing out.Intensity is one way to build bigger and stronger muscles, and you have to manipulate intensity in order to achieve a certain level of development and also to avoid overtraining.Going back to the first article, take a look at the population of Haakkinen's study.The test subjects were women.All I hear in the gym and on the boards are a bunch of guys talking about how they can bench 350 or squat 500 but they balk at the idea of splitting their volume in half and training twice in one day.Then you've got these female athletes making documented gains on an idea that is supposedly too intense for a bunch of strong lifters like us?Too intense is starting to sound like a copout to me.

Very good post! You people read the word of wisdom here!!

 

[SSAlexSS]

what is this word?

i havent seen any studies of said hormone being released postworkout.

endomorphines I think it is called.
Those things make you HIGH.

the feeling after workout, runners high, etc.

 

[wrestler69]

make one session (mourning) all cardio papa!

 

[b fold the truth]

I would go nuts if you told me that I had to lift twice a day....totally nuts. My body would also just fall apart...way apart.

B True

 

[Sebass67]

Even if you did the same amount of volume?

 

[b fold the truth]

Yes, even at the same volume. You are suggesting that you do chest in the am and maybe back or bi's or tris or shoulders in the pm? Get out of the gym man...go have fun. Your mind must recouperate.

It also depends on how you define volume? Volume per hour, volume per day, volume per week. Heck...I could do every body part in one day...a couple of hours a part...and my weekly volume would not change. My body part volume would not change either...but my body would. I'd get smaller and weaker.

B True

 

[MrMuscle]

hey b fold is that wall moving yet

i see your point, but still. i would be in the gym 30 minutes tops each time around. i guess if you are on the sauce you would get more out of it..im just asking anyway. i am infact going in the oposite direction. im doing 1 musclegroup a day. so we will see how it goes.

 

[SSAlexSS]

I would go nuts if you told me that I had to lift twice a day....totally nuts. My body would also just fall apart...way apart.

B True

lLike arnold said AND DONT DISS ARNOLD

"Where mind goes body will follow".

If you beleive you gonna overtrain, YOU WILL! Gradually work up the volume and be in positive state of mind!

And you will win!

 

[b fold the truth]

Nothing against you, but I greatly dislike Arnold. I do not like people who are not humble, brag, and who cut down others constantly. I know that has nothing to do with this topic...haha..sorry.

As far as overtraining...it is possible. I have been there...way out there.

B True

 

[ballast]

I agree with SSAlexSS.For most people it's probably a mental thing.They hear "Train twice in one day" and they all of a sudden disagree.Most people haven't even given it a fair trial.I liken it to boot camp for army enlistees.The things these guys can do at the end of training are awesome compared to what they could do when they first started training.Alot of it is psychological.Look at the U.S Navy Seals.To finish training they must be able to run 14 miles in boots and fatigues in loose beach sand and swim 5.5 nautical miles!These guys couldn't do that stuff when they arrived at boot camp.Are these guys genetically superior?(Hell no!Have you seen the build of an average Navy SEAL?Nothing outstanding there).Is the government pumping steroids into their soldiers?Of course not.They are men like you and me, but they believe they can accomplish something, and they won't give up until they do.That's all we are talking about here.Fortitude!Yes, two a day training is tough.Yes, you can overtrain from it.But, if done INTELLIGENTLY, it will work.It's been proven!True, it doesn't work for everyone, but, issueing a blanket statement like "You'll overtrain by doing two sessions in one day" is pure B.S.That's ignorance plain and simple.