Prime example of why abortion is bullshit!

[CFZB]

have you EVER met a Pro-Abortion advocate?

or a perhaps you saw a Pro-Abortion sign?

you havent.

No one has because there is no such thing as Pro-Abortion.

Think hard now......

 

[chesty]

I have no desire to screw anyone. But at least I take responsibility for my actions.

So to all those saying stfu, stfu yourself. Saying we don't have a uterus is like saying you don't have a dick. Big deal.

 

[chesty]

I never claimed to be religous and yes, I wanted to go to Iraq and still do. But those people have made their choice and can defend themselves. Whether or not our invasin is the right thing or wrong. Those people/terrorists have made a conscious decision to kill others and we can fight back. An unborn child does not have that ability.

As for having a child. I have had five. And just because I didn't deliver the child or carry it in my body, does not make me any less qualified to speak out on the subject or have my views and opinions. And they are no less valid than a womans!

 

[danielson]

These are all conditions/questions that must be considered prior to unprotected sex....personally, I feel you must want children enough to take on the responsibilty for ANY problems they might have....one cannot (should not) abort children for convenience....what if the couple wanted a boy but got a girl? What if they wanted twins but only (God-forbide) got a single...your argument works both ways in both extremes. Quality of life is not based on financial or physical standards....(if it was I would the MOST unhappy/miserable person on earth ).

I agree with you personally but I cannot agree with a law that would force a woman to carry a child to term they did not want to, or if there were serious reasons as to why they could not care for the child adequately.

There might be no reason as to why they could not care for a normal child, and also it is the most probably outcome of pregnancy, but I do agree there are many 'unnecessary abortions' for purely physical reasons. That said, I passionately believe you cannot force a competent woman to do anything to her body she does not want to

IMHO, this would warrant termination...where I draw a VERY grey line is on the issue of rape.

Really? The psychological trauma this would do to a woman doesnt bear thinking about so I would think it is justified

 

[danielson]

I differentiate abortion and war like this. War, both sides can defend and fight each other. Right or wrong. An unborn child cannot defend itself nor make its decisions.

so equating the war in Iraq or elsewhere to abortion is not a valid comparison. Holier than thou attitude? I don't. I dissagree vehemently with abortion, that doesn't make me righteous.

Not always, Iraq was unable to mount any significant defence of its cities by bombing, as a result civillian casualties were high. Children in cities would not necessariuly be able to protect themselves, and they are being killed in their natural habitat without even being able to form an opinion as to why the war was happening

 

[Austin316]

not going to get into abortion but that stupid bitch needs to die before she has a chance to bring more of her into the world

maybe she will be hit by a bus or struck by lightning, one can only hope

stupid ass legal system if there was any justice her minimum punishment should be for her to be fixed so she can't do this kinda fucked up shit again

 

[gjohnson5]

I don't have a uterus

That's why you need to stop talkin

 

[Austin316]

aghhhhhh why must the word abortion suck me in so much

to all you pro choicers out there who harp on this that or the other thing, as well as all the pro lifers, none of you really have a fucking clue what your talking about unless you have first hand experiance I don't care what you think

My gf's and myself acted based on health reasons and despite the fact that its one of the accepted reasons by both sides, its still basically fucked me up for life and you have no idea what that shit has done to her mentally. Every single time something bad happens to me I feel like I deserve it. I hate this subject, I hate it and it forces me to look at myself every single time and I try and stomach what I see. I honestly can't believe how fucking idiotic someone has to be to go ythrough with this shit based on reasons like physical appearance or what not. Yea I don't think its my right to tell a woman what she can or can't do, but I don't think she has any idea what it will do to her in the long run and I think these peopel really need to start taking this shit into account

 

[chesty]

I speak from experience having a girlfriend who ended up pregnant and without telling me she was she went and had an abortion, then told me about it later. My brothers now ex wife did that to him 2 that he knows of.

That to me is bullshit.

Again, your right I don't have a uterus. That doesn't make me any less qualified to speak on the matter. So get off the kick of anatomy that men don't have. Just because a woman has an uterus doesn't mean she is qualified to speak on a subject and a man isn't.

As for Iraq, their military was quite capable of mounting a defense had they chosen to. They had poor leadership. And in general are afraid to fight. But hey, they rattled their sabers at us just as much as we did to them. We warned them to follow international law, they chose not to.

I don't think that they are that incapable, they have gotten close to 2000 dead Americans and allies. So, not so bad for diaper wearers.

Let's see if this debate can be done on a more rational/scientific level. I highly doubt that it can be done here, but prove me wrong.

No name calling, no swearing, no insulting, degrading comments, etc. Think it possible?

 

[Austin316]

yea guy I worked withs gf did that to him, thats evil, I'm not sure if I would have it that way over actually being a part of it no matter the reason, the whole situation is fucked up, and people will always pay for their actions one way or another