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Prime example of why abortion is bullshit!

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Beached Whale said:
Because most of the people that posted on this thread (the people with the harshest views being men) relayed accounts that would make your input seem almost fictitious. Whodathunk that MURDER could be an "acceptable choice" that didn't forever fuck all parties' lives up permanently. :rolleyes:

Your account was not odd to me at all. Actually, what you posted has been what I have found to be indicative of nearly every person's experience that I knew personally that had an abortion.

I realize that my grammar is screwed up, but I think you can all surmize what I am trying to say.

I am not saying that abortion is good or that it is bad.

What I am saying is that it should always be a safe choice that is readily available to those that want to exercise that option regardless of their reasons.

Unless someone has personally taken resposibility for the unwanted child of another - your input is not relevant.

If you chose to keep a child that YOU MADE - good for you. That will not get you into heaven faster. Only makes you someone that opted for the PRIVILIGE of parenthood.

If you carried a child to term and chose to give them up for adoption, I have only respect for your selfless act. I dare say that I dont think I would have the strength of character to make that decision.

And finally -

If you feel abortion is immoral or wrong then just dont have one, but you have no business whatsoever trying to tell me what choice is right for me.
If you want to know something even odder is I am Vice Chairman of the college republicans at my university. Im there to make sure the kids dont do anything stupid like picket an abortion clinic and harrass the women going in and out, or use our money to print t-shirts titled "top ten reasons abortion is murder" on the back. I may be republican but I still have practical and common sense (I hope) due to my age relative to the people in college.
 
wutangnomo said:
LMAO! What the hell is the BW post count in this thread at now? I knew it was too good to be true. Typical BW hypocritical bullshit as usual. Says one thing, does another. :rolleyes:

LOL

My but you are the witty one with your little creative editing.

I have yet to post bullshit on this thread. You seem to be doing a good job though - bully for you! ;)
 
superdave said:
If you want to know something even odder is I am Vice Chairman of the college republicans at my university. Im there to make sure the kids dont do anything stupid like picket an abortion clinic and harrass the women going in and out, or use our money to print t-shirts titled "top ten reasons abortion is murder" on the back. I may be republican but I still have practical and common sense (I hope) due to my age relative to the people in college.

There is a group of moronic righttolifers who picket in front of this one clinic that is along a major roadway where I live. They have their big graphic pictures and are commonly found on their knees praying. One of these days I will get out of my car and walk up to them and ask how many of these unwanted children they have sponsored from conception to grave.... just once. Truthfully though I am afraid because I know how psychotic some of them can be (some of the posters on this thread have more than proved that) and fear they may become physical. But if the opportunity ever arises where I feel safe enough to ask this... I WILL.

Funny thing... My kids make comments all the time (they are ages 8 1/2 to 13). "What are they doing mommy?" All I say is that they are busy minding other peoples' business as they seem to have not enough business of their own. :rolleyes:
 
Beached Whale said:
There is a group of moronic righttolifers who picket in front of this one clinic that is along a major roadway where I live. They have their big graphic pictures and are commonly found on their knees praying. One of these days I will get out of my car and walk up to them and ask how many of these unwanted children they have sponsored from conception to grave.... just once. Truthfully though I am afraid because I know how psychotic some of them can be (some of the posters on this thread have more than proved that) and fear they may become physical. But if the opportunity ever arises where I feel safe enough to ask this... I WILL.

Funny thing... My kids make comments all the time (they are ages 8 1/2 to 13). "What are they doing mommy?" All I say is that they are busy minding other peoples' business as they seem to have not enough business of their own. :rolleyes:
They are not necessarily bad people. My parents are very pro life/right wing/involved in church, etc. and they are very well intentioned although they dont go out and protest or picket clinics or anything. I also go out of my way to never mention my abortion views or hint at it in any way. Just a difference of opinion and I figure they can go their whole lives and dont need to know about that about me. But the folks who take action and picket clinics and such, they try to be well intentioned but actions are misguided.
 
Beached Whale said:
Spoken like a man.
You can say what you like - YOU WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE FACED WITH SUCH A DECISION.
Thank you very much, but I dont NEED you to decide for me what will or will not make me cry. :rolleyes:

Curious. I wonder how many of these men would change their minds on this if they had been born women instead of men. Impossible to know but..................
BTW, I personally don't agree with abortions for lazy, healthy young women. Have the child & decide then, keep or give up. But I also believe in the womans right to make that decision. None of us can stand here & know what reason is going through that woman's head.
 
she basically comes off as "I know all and you know nothing" with everything nowadays, same old song and dance. I'd like to see all these people that are in constant agreement with her, cuz just about everyone here sure isn't. Everything comes across as arrogant and condecending even though some of us guys here evidently have a much more personal tie to this very subject and unless she has had one (which I don't recall) she really has no idea what WE despite being MEN have gone through be it good or bad. I'm fucking sick and tired of the whole gender card being used, yea you were born a woman, so fucking what? We're all just people and we all go through our fair share of shit, fathers are just as entitled to their children as the mother, it takes two to make a baby, rather then bitching so much about how men have no right to an opinion with abortion, keep your legs shut and stop fucking these very men if its gonna be like that. Yea I'm not gonna tell these girls/women what to do, but doesn;t mean I have to like it or not have an opinion on it. I don't care for those protestors however, they sicken me I don't need to see those posters driving by, and kids certainly do not either
 
On another note, I read an artical in Men's Health (several years ago), about support & adoption. Apparently, if you fathered a child that was given up for adoption & the child fell under a social services umbrella, they could come back to the biological father. This sort of thing would certainly influence many young men's attitudes.

Remember, our 2 countries believe in the separation of church & state. That means theological arguments cannot be used to form laws.
 
hidngod said:
Curious. I wonder how many of these men would change their minds on this if they had been born women instead of men. Impossible to know but...................

Personally, I believe that if men were the ones to carry the fetus abortion wouldn't even be an issue. Could you imagine a society where a woman would actually have the gaul to tell a man what is right for him?


hidngod said:
BTW, I personally don't agree with abortions for lazy, healthy young women. Have the child & decide then, keep or give up.
Where did the word "lazy" come into play as a deciding factor as to which woman has a "legitimate" reason and which one does not?

Please explain.
 
Austin316 said:
she basically comes off as "I know all and you know nothing" with everything nowadays, same old song and dance. I'd like to see all these people that are in constant agreement with her, cuz just about everyone here sure isn't. Everything comes across as arrogant and condecending even though some of us guys here evidently have a much more personal tie to this very subject and unless she has had one (which I don't recall) she really has no idea what WE despite being MEN have gone through be it good or bad. I'm fucking sick and tired of the whole gender card being used, yea you were born a woman, so fucking what? We're all just people and we all go through our fair share of shit, fathers are just as entitled to their children as the mother, it takes two to make a baby, rather then bitching so much about how men have no right to an opinion with abortion, keep your legs shut and stop fucking these very men if its gonna be like that. Yea I'm not gonna tell these girls/women what to do, but doesn;t mean I have to like it or not have an opinion on it. I don't care for those protestors however, they sicken me I don't need to see those posters driving by, and kids certainly do not either

LOL Austin - that chip on your shoulder is very unnattractive anymore.

Show me ONE POST where I tell anyone "I know everything and you know nothing"?

As for you being sick and tired of the gender card -

As I told Chesty ad nauseum...

You need to take that up with God. Our biology dictates that THE WOMAN is the one to carry the fetus. With this comes great privilige but tremendous responsibility as a woman can NEVER walk away. A man can every single time.

See you dont see me bitching about how I will be the one stuck potentially carrying a child that I may not want and be faced with the decision as to what I should do. Sorry, you need to stop bitching about how it is ultimately the woman's decision and how ultimately you may have no say. Perhaps it is THE MEN that have this problem that should keep THEIR DICKS IN THEIR PANTS and they wont be faced with the issue of having some lazy evil bitch murdering their baby.

See how that works both ways? :supercool:
 
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