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POssible First Cycle --- Please advise?

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irockinav661

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Hey all, I am considering my first cycle ever. Let me give you the run down of what is going on fitness and health wise first.

I am 32 years old, 5'9" currently 183 (down from 207), no clue what bf% (Guess would be high teens, low 20's). I am currently wieght training with slight HIIT cardio 5 days a week. My nutriotion is on poin (alhough deficit to lose fat). I count/weigh everything and eat clean as I can without sacrificing taste.

I will tell you i have no idea how to inject or how much I need to buy as the amount are all crazy. But i did find from abazar this cycle with following info:
-week of
cycle
T. ENANTHATE
250mg
DECA
200mg
PROVIRON
25mg tab
NOLVADEX
10mg tab
CLOMID
50mg tab
1
1ml/week
200mg/week
2
2ml/week
400mg/week
3
2ml/week
400mg/week
1tab/day
4
2ml/week
200mg/week
1tab/day
5
2ml/week
200mg/week
1tab/day
6
2ml/week
200mg/week
1tab/day
7
2ml/week
200mg/week
1tab/day
8
1ml/week
200mg/week
1tab/day
9
10
11
1tab/day
12
1tab/day
 
No too much for a first cycle. Test only imo. 500mg a week of test enth for 12wks with two pins per week. Have an AI on hand at least.
 
I appreciate the response. I'm glad it was a straight forward response. Any others? I'm hoping this helps with the muscle I've been losing during cutting. I will cut down another 8-10 pounds before this cycle. Goal is to increase lean muscle after diet.

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You need to research more but I will outline I good first cycle for you.....

Wks 1-12 Test Enth 250mg Monday/250mg Thursday
Wks 1-12 HCGenerate 5 caps a day
Wks 1-12 N2Guard full dose ED
Wks 2-12 Adex .25 eod (increase to .5eod if needed)
Wks 14-17 Clomid 50mg ED
Wks 14-17 Test Infusion
 
meathead96 said:
You need to research more but I will outline I good first cycle for you.....

Wks 1-12 Test Enth 250mg Monday/250mg Thursday
Wks 1-12 HCGenerate 5 caps a day
Wks 1-12 N2Guard full dose ED
Wks 2-12 Adex .25 eod (increase to .5eod if needed)
Wks 14-17 Clomid 50mg ED
Wks 14-17 Test Infusion
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OK sounds good. But one reason I was looking into purchasing it as a stack is in confused on how much I need. Test at 500mg for that duration is howany vials?? Thanks.

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Well lets say you have 10ml vials and its 250mg/ml. Then you would be using 2ml a week. So for twelve weeks you would need 24ml. That would be three 10ml vials at least. Always better to have extra on hand in case something happens though. And never start a cycle without having everything on hand and thoroughly knowing what your putting in your body and the effects it could have. Sounds like you need to do a lot more research first.
 
I am reading. Doing research as quickly as possible. I had same formula as you I just wanted it to be clear.

I am not taking cycle yet. Still a ways to go. Doing research now, asking questions being prepared. Than you for your help.

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Edit: n2guard and hcgenerate not really needed correct? I mean I do plan on pct and hcg by itself. Will also use milk thistle throughout and before.
 
irockinav661 said:
I am reading. Doing research as quickly as possible. I had same formula as you I just wanted it to be clear.

I am not taking cycle yet. Still a ways to go. Doing research now, asking questions being prepared. Than you for your help.

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No problem, your doing the right thing brother. Any other questions you have don't hesitate to ask. We're all here to help eachother.
 
meathead96 said:
You need to research more but I will outline I good first cycle for you.....

Wks 1-12 Test Enth 250mg Monday/250mg Thursday
Wks 1-12 HCGenerate 5 caps a day
Wks 1-12 N2Guard full dose ED
Wks 2-12 Adex .25 eod (increase to .5eod if needed)
Wks 14-17 Clomid 50mg ED
Wks 14-17 Test Infusion
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Perfect cycle, except 1 small change.:)

Add N2Guard for at least half of PCT and kick-start PCT with HCGenerate.
 
irockinav661 said:
Would you also suggest something such as clen to continue helping with fat burning ?

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Clen has some serious sides, but I doubt telling you that will talk you out of using it. If you do decide on clen, go with a low dose (under 40mcg) 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off, 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. On the off weeks, use N2Burn.
 
WolfpackAlpha said:
Clen has some serious sides, but I doubt telling you that will talk you out of using it. If you do decide on clen, go with a low dose (under 40mcg) 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off, 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. On the off weeks, use N2Burn.
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Yeah I've stayed away from clen because of this. I really like EC which I'm running now. 25mg ephedrine and 200mg caffeine 3x a day. N2Burn is awesome. I really like N2Stim as well.
 
Deca , nolva clomid. Ugh.

And you want to do clen.

This shit cracks me up. First cycles and the dosages are higher than I'm doing for an NPC competition.

But....whatever.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Deca , nolva clomid. Ugh.

And you want to do clen.

This shit cracks me up. First cycles and the dosages are higher than I'm doing for an NPC competition.

But....whatever.
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Each person tolerates it differently. I will obviously slowly dose up to suggested doses. I asked about clen due to its fat burning potential. Did I say that I was running it? I'm asking and inquiring. I am doing it right and picking away people with answers to help me in right direction. Not for ppl to judge. If you feel the cycle is not the best for me as a first cycle please feel free to explain. I'm all ears!!

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OK, after doing some more reading can i ask once more about a new possible first cycle to get your suggestion on this as well..... Almost just as above with added D-Bol in front loading. I heard amazing things about Dbol and feel it will help a lot.... or will this be way to much for 1st cycle. Here is my proposed plan:

week 1-14 Test E 250 mg 2X a week
week 1-4 D-Bol @ 40mg wk
week 10-14 HCGenerate @ full dose ED
week 4-14 HCG @ 500ui wk
week 1-5 aromsin 12.5 mg wk week 6-14 drop to eod week 15-18 6mg eod
week 15-16 HMG 75iu eod
week 15-18 clomid 50mg ed
week 2-12 adex .25 eod (increase to .5eod if needed)


What do you all think? PLease be serious in response. Like I said the reason I am here is to research and ASK BEFORE i do anything... your knowledge and informational answers will help benefiet me when it comes time for cycle. Thaks in advance..
 
you already got feedback and 95% of ppl on here say the same thing. Test only for first cycle. I'm new here and I got the message loud and clear so why can't you?
 
stormshadow101 said:
you already got feedback and 95% of ppl on here say the same thing. Test only for first cycle. I'm new here and I got the message loud and clear so why can't you?
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Again. That's just a couple members suggestions and there are many on here. Needtoget also suggested a test/primo cycle. But the cycle he suggested puts me well over $600. I'm trying to keep cost minimal yet have an effective cycle.

All I am doing is FISHING for suggestions and opinions.

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