PLEASE Help me Lose Weight! I am so fricken Fat - Serious Advice Please.

[makedah]

SirMack - I hate to hear you say "Just tell me exactly what to do and I'll do it." You must read and learn for YOURSELF. After all it is YOUR body. Don't just look for someone to tell you what to do -- that's how all those junk diet books sell millions of copies.

You have to realize that a lot of folks here have discipline and drive that a LOT of folks do not when it comes to food. You may not be able to adhere to the kinds of diets that they can. Also, the lengths to which bodybuilders will go to drop body fat are probably far above and beyond what you may need to do to lose weight. Keep in mind that there are folks here who are already quite lean but trying to get to bodyfat percentages in the single digits. Are you?

Lots of folks here know a lot about nutrition, but keep in mind that your goals may not be their goals. Read, read, read and think about what's going to fit YOU best.

If you have bad eating habits at this point, frankly, it's going to take some time for you to get used to eating a healthful diet. And it's going to be hard. Stop thinking so much about "fast" because then you'll get desperate and then you'll get frustrated quickly.

 

[TheBigDog]

I went ahead and purchased teh Body for Life book from BUy.com, its an awesome price, with free shipping & no tax. I'm going to read through that and start with it and see what happens.

SirMack,

Yo, I am glad that you picked it up from buy.com. Read the book throughoutly before you start. It is a concious decision of MIND and BODY. Mind being as important, if not more important as the BODY part.

Good luck and keep us posted on the progress. I have done the program myself, so if you got some specific question, u are welcome to PM me.

 

[SirMack]

SirMack,

Yo, I am glad that you picked it up from buy.com. Read the book throughoutly before you start. It is a concious decision of MIND and BODY. Mind being as important, if not more important as the BODY part.

Good luck and keep us posted on the progress. I have done the program myself, so if you got some specific question, u are welcome to PM me.

Thank you so much for the offer. I will definately keep in touch with you guys. I do have a bigger reason to getting in shape/weight loss. I have an extra vertabrae in my back and it puts a lot of excess pressure on my spine. The weight I have gained has caused me to have back aches quite often. The doctor told me I need to fix my nutrition and lose between 45-65 lbs in order to save my back. He told me if I don't lose the weight in the next 10 years I could find myself crippled at an older age. So you see, I have a bit of motivation, its not so much for the looks.

Right now all I get are back pains which I can manage without any pain killers. Hence the reason I am starting the work out and changing my lifestyle and eating habits. if I can do it now before it gets worse then I can eliminate the back problems in the long run.

Right now I'm going to look into that Body for Life, as I purchased the book. But the other diets that seem to impress me are the Mayo Clinic (GrapeFruit) diet, and the Caveman Diet. Maybe someday when I've lost the weight and have bulked up a little I'll need a Ketogenic diet to get rid of those extra few % of body fat. Whatch do you guys think?

 

[Kid Dynamite]

The fuck is the grapefruit diet? Sounds like it's aimed at 50 year old housewives. Enlighten me. Out.

 

[Cuts]

I went ahead and purchased teh Body for Life book from BUy.com, its an awesome price, with free shipping & no tax. I'm going to read through that and start with it and see what happens.

I think BFL is the only "diet" (I don't really consider it a diet in the traditional sense) that one can follow for a lifetime. After all, isn't that what eating right and living healthy is about... making it a part of your life--not just some 2 month crash program? Keep us updated as per your results. Good luck!

 

[SirMack]

The fuck is the grapefruit diet? Sounds like it's aimed at 50 year old housewives. Enlighten me. Out.

New Mayo Clinic Diet (GrapeFruit Diet)

BREAKFAST:
1/2 grapefruit or 8oz unsweetened juice.
2 Eggs any style
2 Slices of bacon
Black coffee or tea, no sugar

LUNCH:
1/2 grapefruit or 8oz unsweetened juice.
Salad and or raw veggies (any dressing, {not low fat or fat free})
Meat (Cooked any way)

DINNER:
1/2 grapefruit or 8oz unsweetened juice.
Meat (cooked any way) Vegetables (any green or red, may be cooked in butter
or Seasoning or a salad as above) Black coffee or tea, no sugar

BEDTIME:
(opt) 8oz Tomato juice or skim milk

INSTRUCTIONS:
1. At any meal you may eat until you are full, and you can not eat anymore.
You must eat the minimum listed at each meal.

2. Do not eliminate anything from the diet, especially don't skip the bacon
at breakfast or omit salads. It is the combination of foods that burn the
fat.

3. The grapefruit is important because it acts as a catalyst that starts the
burning process.

4. Cut down on coffee, it affects the insulin balance that hinders the
burning process. Try to limit to one cup each meal.

5. Don't eat between meals, if you eat the combination of food suggested,
you will not get hungry.

6. The diet may eliminate sugars and starches. Fat does not form fat, it
helps burn it, so you can fry food in butter and use butter generously on
vegetables.

7. Do not eat desserts, breads and white vegetables of sweet potatoes. You
may double or triple helpings of meat, salads or vegetables. Eat till you
are stuffed. The more you eat the more weight you will lose.

8. There may be no weight loss in the first 4 days, but you may lose 5
pounds on the 5th day. You may lose 1 and 1/2 pounds every two days until
you reach your goal.

9. DRINK EIGHT 8oz GLASSES OF WATER EVERY DAY. 1/2 GALLON. ALL SOFT DRINKS NEED TO BE DIET AND CAFFEINE FREE.

YOU MAY NOT HAVE: White onions, potatoes, celery, peas, cereal, carrots,
corn, starchy vegetables, bread, noodles, rice, potato chips, pretzels or
fruit or diet dressing.

YOU MAY HAVE: Red onions, bell peppers, radishes, broccoli, cucumbers, green
onions, leaf spinach, cabbage, tomatoes, green beans, lettuce, chili (no
beans) mayonnaise, any cheese, hot dogs, cole slaw, regular salad dressing,
green vegetables, 1tsp nuts, dill or bread and butter pickles.


IMPORTANT
STAY ON DIET 12 DAYS AND STOP FOR 2 DAYS
Works out great to start on a Monday because you will have every other
weekend off of the diet.

---End

So whatcha think?

 

[makedah]

I KNEW that diet sounded bogus. It didn't sound like anything one of the top medical organizations in the country would recommend.

Mayo Clinic Diet: No such thing

 

[Spectre]

That diet appears to be a starvation diet. I wouldn't do it, you will loose muscle. Keep your muscle and drop the fat via keto or ckd. Stay far away from the housewife diets and fad pills.

One issue man, you address your problem head on and that is good and you ask for input and you recieved very sound advice. Then you come back with some lame grapfruit ala Richard Simmons diet? It doesn't even remotely look like anything that has been suggested here. Even worse it has you eating only 3 time a day instead of at LEAST 6.

There are no free rides or short cuts when dieting.. Just start any of the suggested diets as they are all good for the most part. Don't jump to another diet at week 4 or whatever. You will reach a point where the diet will stop working and you will need to switch diets to keep your body moving. Switch your training around in the middle of diet as well.

NOW GET YOUR ASS IN THE GYM!!!! DON'T LOOK BACK!

 

[SirMack]

That diet appears to be a starvation diet. I wouldn't do it, you will loose muscle. Keep your muscle and drop the fat via keto or ckd. Stay far away from the housewife diets and fad pills.

One issue man, you address your problem head on and that is good and you ask for input and you recieved very sound advice. Then you come back with some lame grapfruit ala Richard Simmons diet? It doesn't even remotely look like anything that has been suggested here. Even worse it has you eating only 3 time a day instead of at LEAST 6.

There are no free rides or short cuts when dieting.. Just start any of the suggested diets as they are all good for the most part. Don't jump to another diet at week 4 or whatever. You will reach a point where the diet will stop working and you will need to switch diets to keep your body moving. Switch your training around in the middle of diet as well.

NOW GET YOUR ASS IN THE GYM!!!! DON'T LOOK BACK!

Looks like the Body for Life diet is the best bet then.

BTW, is Xenadrine important in the weightloss/diet process? or would you guys recommend against it? I am just curious as I've had folks mentioning it. Thanks.

 

[pryncess]

For Makdah and Spectre

Makdah--you are right the Mayo Clinic does not endorse this diet--the name was given becuase people laughed off the name grapefruit diet and it is very similar to a diet given at the Mayo clinic for rapid weight loss.

Spectre--I agree with you about not switching too soon but I did suggest the 6 week point, why stay on when you know you've already achieved the majority of the potential. Second I did suggest a much healthier, more frequent eating plan as a follow on so that eating would approach a lifestyle change as opposed to just a diet. Third--how do you figure it's so low in calories???? The way I see it a typical day would give him approximately a 20% deficit from maintenance level.

BF--4 eggs/4 slices bacon/grapefruit juice--280+520+50=850 cals

LUNCH--grilled chicken (lean)/salad w/dressing/grapefruit juice--300+200+50=550

DINNER--6oz ground beef/two servings veggies/grapefruit juice--450/75/50=575

Maintenance fo him is approx 2700 calories--he's eating around 2000. There are definately healthier combos, I refer people to use more good fats--eat avacadoes, use olive oil--fish oil lowers leptin by the way so not recommended for dieting but stil good for you.

Anyway, I don't get the issue here--is the name really all that important--it's basically a healthier version of the Atkins--allows you to eat more veggies and more carbs. It is still a low carb diet. When was the last time any one of you had 60lbs to loose? And if you've never tried something--why don't you take a good look at what it is really doing rather than knocking it or trying to find websites that validate your opinion.

Makdah--I can find hundreds of references by "experts" who say what a hoax Atkins and how much muscle you will lose and how unhealthy it is yet there were many posts above mine that attested to it. Opinions are like assholes, ask me and I'll tell you that UNLESS you are truly carb resistant, Atkins is not a good way to loose weight, does result in muscle loss and fat regain when going off. And by the way the reference you gave has a healthy eating plan for "weight management", not weight loss--would you use their recommendations if you had a lot of weight to lose???? It's good for daily life and if you only had 10-20 lbs to loos but it will take him a year to get the weight off if he starts there.

BTW--Xen is not NECESSARY but will help get the weight off faster with less of a struggle and has been scientifically proven to maintain lean mass while stimulating brown adipose tissue--ANYONE OBJECT TO THAT????