PGCL--- anyone else onboard?

[AAP]

Yesterday (THU) made the 4th day in a row that I did SQ abdominal injects.

The scale at the gym last night has me at 251. A total of 3 pounds down in 4 days. Before anyone assumes or misinterprets this weight drop, keep in mind as I stated before it is mostly due to the flushing of retained water out of my system due to all the drinking I did on vacation the past four weeks. The vodka and the high carbs (along with only one workout in 29 days) had a bit of water in me. Although alcohol can be a diuretic in it's own way, it was nothing like this.

The tightness in my abs only increased each day. Keep in mind I don't have much BF to lose, as I am already in the single digits. However to give you an idea of the tightness - which was muscular tightness, not intestines - in high school and college when I competed in regional and national swim meets, our coach had us training abs 6 days a week, 45 mins straight each day. I haven't trained abs in over 6 years now due to 8 years of daily work back then. But the tightness feels exactly the same as it did back in those days when I would take 2 months off in the summer out of school and then return for the first ab workout of the season.

This is why I think (personally) it is better to inject it IM into a lagging muscle. When I was doing biceps a couple months ago, the amount of fat burning and weight loss seemed to be exactly on par with what i have just experienced with SQ. The only difference is that my biceps were pumped and swole the entire time I was on it.

 

[socket]

This stuff sound too good to be true. I must find a way to get some over here in Spain

 

[td1111]

Any difference using PGF2a instead?

 

[AAP]

Any difference using PGF2a instead?

I have never used PGF2a personally, but the one guy that I know that has used both says that the cramping and pain from PGCL is like 100x LESS than with PGF2a.

Some people refuse to use PGCL because they think the pain and cramping in the muscle will be on par with the old stuff.

 

[td1111]

I am the next guinea pig up! I took my first shot very cautiously using an ultra-low dose: 15mcg into my left bicep. Glad I did because 30 mins in, the abdominal cramping was quite painful. I certainly would have been in agony if I did more than 15mcg. No shits yet, possibly since I had already done my morning duty. I will slowly up the dose and see how it affects me.

EDIT: 1.5 hours after inject, I dropped a substantial load of diarrhea.

I found another user's thread/log on PGCL with a lot of key info that is not posted here. Some of these guys are using very high doses with massive sides: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=298908

 

[AAP]

I wish the shits came faster. With PGF2a, you caught the shits in about 3 minutes.

 

[td1111]

Wow, my abdomen hurts now. I'm sure it's from my intestines being so tight, it feels like I really overdid it with sit-ups, but its behind the abs. I wouldn't want to risk running this stuff with clenbuterol, since holding muscles tight often makes them cramp up on clen.

 

[2YoUnG2JuiCe]

a guy on another board (veteran) ran in...he really seemed to like it but the shit seemed to have some pretty wicked side effects, hemroids, insane shitting and pissing, he was drinking 2 galons of water a day and still pissy "yellow froth" but lost weight and gained muscle i'd be hella careful though bro shit is really experimental and he metioned that pottasium and magnesium could be life savers

my .02

 

[Phaded]

good post aap.. would you recommend taking pgcl solo or stacked with a low dose of test or something?

 

[td1111]

Wow, hemorrhoids? Might make sense, as the other thread had guys saying it made their sphincter clench up like crazy, causing major pain, although there were doing 60-100mcgs at a time.

One thing I will say though, is my appetite has been squashed! I've had maybe 1500 calories all day, mostly whey protein and V8, milk, banana, etc. and don't feel like eating much at all. I like this effect since I'm at the tail end of my cycle and I need to cut in a big way.

Another thought! If you are on cycle and/or GH, and your intestines are doing one-max reps all the time, what are the odds of growing large intestines??